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Day by Day, Trump Brings DOJ More Fully Under His Thumb

A lot of things happened. Here are some of the things. This is TPM’s Morning Memo. Sign up for the email version.

The Purges: DOJ Edition

The hits just keep coming at the Justice Department, including the FBI:

  • The firing of a second prosecutor in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia has come to light. In addition to Michael Ben’Ary, career prosecutor Maya Song was terminated since Trump lawyer Lindsey Halligan became the new U.S. attorney. Song has been the top deputy to previous U.S. Attorney Erik Siebert, who was forced out by President Trump. Song had agreed to a demotion to a line prosecutor role, but was subsequently terminated anyway.
  • Amid speculation that the firing were related to internal resistance within the U.S. Attorney’s Office to the indictment of former FBI Director James Comey, the WaPo notes a common thread connecting Ben’Ary and Song: They has worked as senior advisers to then-Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco during the Biden administration. Monaco, as the No. 2 at DOJ, oversaw the prosecutions of Trump, who last week demanded that Microsoft fire her as its president of global affairs.
  • FBI Director Kash Patel fired a new agent trainee at Quantico for having displayed a gay pride flag on his desk last year during a previous assignment as a FBI support staffer — before Trump became president. Patel called it “an inappropriate display of political signage in your work area,” in the email firing the trainee and ending his FBI career.

Patel Shuts Down FBI’s Anti-Extremism Project With ADL

In a bombastic social media post, Patel this week ended a training and intelligence-sharing partnership with the Anti-Defamation League. In the process, he smeared the ADL and former FBI Director James Comey, claiming “James Comey wrote ‘love letters’ to the ADL and embedded FBI agents with them – a group that ran disgraceful ops spying on Americans,” Patel posted. “That era is OVER. This FBI won’t partner with political fronts masquerading as watchdogs.”

Unpacking the Threat of Trump’s Domestic Terrorism Memo

Georgetown law professor Steve Vladeck explains how President Trump’s executive action on domestic terrorism is both a stunt and a threat to constitutionally protected speech and political activity: “That’s why it’s so important for the groups the government targets … to fight back—and to not simply quietly acquiesce and cease engaging in constitutionally protected activity out of fear that they’ll be punished for doing so. And that’s why it’s so important to understand just how little [it] actually does to change the potential legal consequences those groups face.”

Clarification: The Trump executive action came via a presidential memo, not an executive order, as I originally wrote.

A Warning From Chris Murphy

In a podcast interview with The New Republic’s Greg Sargent, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) warns that we are fast approaching the point where the space for meaningful political opposition to President Trump is constrained by authoritarian restrictions:

My belief has never been that he’s going to cancel the election in 2026 or 2028—he’s not going to do that. Turkey still has elections, Hungary still has elections, Russia still has elections. The leaders in those countries just constrain that space the opposition can operate in, such that they never have enough room to win a national election. If we are not already there, we are really, really close. Which is why the only way out of that is to make them pay a political price every time they ratchet up pressure on the opposition. 

Mass Deportations Civil Rights Violations Watch

  • Evidence produced at a trial that ended this week showed that a transnational crime unit at DHS secretly targeted campus protesters, including Tufts student Rumeysa Ozturk, who was swept off a city street outside her Massachusetts home in March, an incident captured on video. The bench trial in front of U.S. District Judge William Young, which ended with his memorable ruling against the government, also revealed that White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller spoke with senior officials at the State Department and DHS more than a dozen times in March to discuss student visa revocations, the WaPo reports.
  • Under intense pressure from the Trump administration, Apple has removed ICE tracking apps from its app store, including ICEBlock.
  • Chris Hayes went deep on “Kavanaugh stops” last night:

Will Universities Hang Together or Hang Separately?

The nine universities offered President Trump’s unlawful “compact” to secure federal funding in return for Trump-friendly policies are being closely watched ahead of the Oct. 20 deadline to accept it to see how they respond. In a bad sign, the chair of the University of Texas Board of Regents hailed the offer as an “honor.”

The rest of the nine schools are:

  • Brown
  • Dartmouth
  • MIT
  • Penn
  • UVa
  • Vanderbilt
  • Arizona
  • USC

Quote of the Day

“This is extortion, plain and simple.”–Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the law school at UC Berkeley, on President Trump’s proposed “compact” with universities

NIH Whistleblower Fired

HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has fired Dr. Jeanne Marrazzo, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases who was put on administrative leave in March along with two other institute directors. Marrazzo filed a whistleblower complaint three weeks before the date of her termination letter, and her lawyer is arguing the firing was retaliatory. The other two directors have since been terminated, too.

Trump Notifies Congress of ‘War’ With Drug Cartels

The Trump administration has notified Congress that the United States is in a formal “armed conflict” with drug cartels, adding what the NYT called “new detail to the administration’s thinly articulated legal rationale” for attacks on drug-smuggling boats on the high seas.

The legal rationale remained thin in a classified Senate Armed Services Committee briefing this week by Pentagon general counsel Earl Matthews, the WSJ reports (emphasis mine):

Matthews repeatedly referred to Trump’s designation of some Latin American drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, which he said granted the Defense Department unilateral authority to use military force against them, some of the people said. Matthews refused to provide a written justification for the strikes, which legal experts say is necessary for transparency and accountability.

Choice Detail on the Eisenhower Sword Fiasco

It’s still not totally clear if Todd Arrington’s refusal to break the law and hand over an Eisenhower sword for President Trump to give to King Charles was the main or even contributing factor in his firing as the director of the Eisenhower presidential library. But the way the request for the sword came to him is an eyebrow-raiser by itself:

The request for a gift for King Charles came from a State Department liaison who used the email address “giftgirl2025” and initially told the museum that they were looking for “like a sword or something,” according to a person familiar with the discussions.

I want to know more about “giftgirl2025.” My Signal information is below.

Hyper-Masculinity in the Age of Trump

NYT: “Pete Hegseth’s advocacy for service members accused of war crimes, and Trump’s pardons of them, have helped usher in an era of military aggression and disregard for the rule of law.”

Woman Named Archbishop of Canterbury for First Time

Britain’s new Archbishop of Canterbury-designate, Sarah Mullally, poses for a photograph in The Corona Chapel at Canterbury Cathedral, south east England on October 3, 2025, following the announcement of her posting. Sarah Mullally was on Friday named the new Archbishop of Canterbury, the UK government announced, becoming the first woman to lead the Church of England in its history. Her nomination by a committee tasked with finding a successor to Justin Welby, who stepped down earlier this year over an abuse scandal, has been approved by King Charles III, the government said. (Photo by Ben STANSALL / AFP) (Photo by BEN STANSALL/AFP via Getty Images)

Sarah Mullally is the first woman to be named archbishop of Canterbury, the spiritual leader of the Anglican Church worldwide.

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White House Uses Shutdown to Carry Out Trump’s Retribution Agenda

The government is shut down and the Trump administration has begun its retribution campaign against Democrats. President Trump and Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought are engaging in a blatant attempt to squeeze Democrats into helping pass a continuing resolution to reopen the government, instead of engaging with their requests to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies and restore Medicaid coverage.

Follow along with our coverage here:

In Shutdown Spin, Republicans Are Pretending They Care About Mothers on WIC Now

House Republican leadership held a pretty maddening press conference Thursday morning trying to place the blame for the shutdown on Democrats.

Their spin du jour involved accusing Democrats of taking the government hostage, trying to appease the “radical left” corners of their party, and claiming that Democrats are attempting to take money from rural hospitals to give “illegal aliens” free health care. The line about Dems wanting to give undocumented immigrants free health care is spun out of Democrats’ requests to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies that will expire in December and restore Medicaid coverage that was drastically cut when Republicans passed their sweeping “big, beautiful” bill this summer. And it’s simply not true.

But the most galling part of the presser was Republicans’ newfound fixation on mothers who rely on federal nutrient assistance programs like WIC to feed their children — the types of social safety net services and programs that Democrats champion and that Republicans have been hellbent on gutting for decades.

In a call with House Republicans on Wednesday, Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought warned that money for WIC was about to run out due to the shutdown. The talking point clearly resonated with members of the Republican conference. At today’s press briefing, Republican leadership brought up the nutrition program for low-income moms and babies to further demonize Democrats, whose votes they need to reopen the government.

“So, I ask Democrats, are you okay with this? Are you okay with mothers unable to get milk for their children? Answer that questions, Democrats,” Chairwoman of the House Republican Conference Lisa McClain (R-MI) said. “Because with your ‘no’ vote, you are voting for mothers on WIC not to be able to feed their children.”

It’s all bluster and lies.

The original House Republican budget proposal for what would become the “big, beautiful” bill included cuts to WIC which would’ve resulted in $1.3 billion in fruit and vegetable benefits being taken from some 5.2 million women and children who participate in the program, according to an early estimate from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. While WIC was ultimately not cut in the final Senate version of Trump’s budget bill, some of the cuts to nutrition assistance and health care programs included in the legislation have made it “harder for families to access essential programs like WIC,” according to the National WIC Association, which put out a statement condemning the legislation when it passed the Senate in July.

“While WIC is not directly cut in this package, the program does not operate in a vacuum. Adjunctive eligibility for WIC is tied to participation in Medicaid and SNAP,” Georgia Machell, President and CEO of the National WIC Association said at the time. “Any policies that restrict access to those programs will, in turn, create additional barriers to WIC enrollment.”

— Nicole Lafond

Americans Blame Trump for Shutdown

The Washington Post conducted a poll on Wednesday, texting a 1,010 “nationally representative” pool of Americans to ask for their feedback on the shutdown:

The Post’s poll finds significantly more Americans blame President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans for the shutdown than Democrats, though many say they are not sure. People express moderate concern about the shutdown’s impact at this early stage, with “somewhat concerned” the most common answer. A large majority support Democrats’ call to extend federal health insurance subsidies in general, though just under half support the party demanding this if it extends the government shutdown.

— Nicole Lafond

Movement on the National Guard Front

A few things happened Thursday in the various challenges to the National Guard occupations:

  • The Trump administration used the shutdown to try to freeze D.C.’s case against the occupation. D.C. contested it, writing: “Courts in this Circuit have routinely denied the government’s requests to stay time-sensitive proceedings during prior lapses in appropriations.” Judge Jia Cobb denied the request late Thursday afternoon.
  • The judge overseeing the challenge to the occupation in Portland, who is an Obama appointee, recused himself from the case at the Trump administration’s behest. Judge Michael Simon wrote that while he “does not believe that recusal is required under either federal law or the Code of Conduct for United States Judges,” focus must remain on the questions presented by the case. The administration had pointed to the comments of Simon’s wife, a Democratic representative whose seat includes parts of Portland, opposing the deployment. The case, as Trump’s luck will have it, was then randomly reassigned to a judge he appointed.

— Kate Riga

In Case You Missed It

New from Layla A. Jones: The Government Shutdown Is Helping Trump Obscure Federal Economic Data

Josh Marshall: Being Ready to Lose Well, Perseverance and How Not to Be Lost

Catch up on our coverage of the shutdown here: White House Uses Shutdown to Carry Out Trump’s Retribution Agenda

Trump Admin Tries to Use Shutdown to Pause DC’s Case Against National Guard Occupation

ICYMI this morning: Trump’s NLRB Nominees Get Grilled While Board Faces Uncertain Future

Yesterday’s Most Read Story

Government Shutdown, Day One

What We Are Reading

Bari Weiss to Lead CBS News as Part of Major Paramount Skydance Shakeup: Sources

Karoline Leavitt Says It’s OK to Target Americans Repped by Democrats

Trump ‘Determined’ the U.S. Is Now in a War With Drug Cartels, Congress Is Told 

Being Ready to Lose Well, Perseverance and How Not to Be Lost

On Monday I saw a bunch of people on Bluesky mentioning and praising this essay by Andrea Pitzer. It’s quite good. I recommend reading it. It’s about the recent podcast discussion between Ezra Klein and Ta-Nehisi Coates. And that conversation turns a lot on the much-derided column Klein wrote about Charlie Kirk and how “Kirk was practicing politics in exactly the right way.”

Regular readers know that I have a number of enduring disagreements with Klein. They’re actually more and less than disagreements. They’re more like dispositional disagreements. Pitzer says up front that a lot of people are dumping on Klein now and she’s not trying to do that or at least not add to that. (And I second that for what I write below.) What she sets out to do is explain why she thinks Klein is “lost” in the present moment (a point Klein actually agrees with) and, secondarily, why Coates, whether you agree with him specifically, is not. Again, it’s worth reading Pitzer in her own lucid words rather than just my synopsis. But I would summarize it thus: Pitzer says that Klein has something called “bright-kid syndrome,” by which she means the idea that a smart and hyper-educated young(ish) person like Klein can and should come up with a prescription or fix to the ills he sees in front of him. It’s not quite like the “one weird trick” of memeland. But it’s kind of like that, inasmuch as it rests on the assumption that the intractable and overwhelming can actually be solved if you think about it hard enough, if you have enough cleverness and ingenuity.

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The Government Shutdown Is Helping Trump Obscure Federal Economic Data

The Bureau of Labor Statistics has been forced to halt the publishing of its always-anticipated monthly jobs report because of the government shutdown, making room for President Donald Trump’s administration to obscure the true state of the economy nine months into his second term.

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Judge Denies Trump Admin’s Attempt To Pause DC National Guard Case Due To Shutdown

D.C. District Court Judge Jia Cobb on Thursday denied the Trump’s administration’s lobbying for a freeze of Washington D.C.’s attempt to eject a couple thousand National Guard from the district. 

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Trump Lays Siege to the Federal Government From Inside Its Walls

A lot of things happened. Here are some of the things. This is TPM’s Morning Memo. Sign up for the email version.

‘Maximize the Pain’

The government shutdown has again laid bare how Republicans, especially but not exclusively in the Trump era, see government as a little more than a social service agency for poor people. In this distorted view of politics, shutting down and dismantling government equates to punishing Democrats since Democrats support and are supported by poor people.

Trump, as he is wont to do, gave voice to this punitive approach to governance earlier this week, saying the quiet parts out loud:

Trump posted on social media this morning that OMB Director Russ Vought is going to seize on the shutdown not just to impose the widespread layoffs previously threatened but to dismantle more government agencies. Predictably, the administration already took advantage of the shutdown to shutter Voice of America (which has stayed on air during past shutdowns), a convenient runaround on a judge’s order to reinstate fired workers and restore programming.

In the Trump worldview, where you either dominate or are dominated, it’s obviously not a great cognitive leap to turn the government shutdown into a chance to punish blue states and Democrats. Likewise, misusing government resources to wage the messaging battle over the shutdown is perfectly on brand with Trump’s view of government as his personal plaything.

The NYT put it well:

The Trump administration took steps on Wednesday to maximize the pain of the government shutdown, halting billions of dollars in funds for Democratic-led states while readying a plan to lay off potentially droves of civil servants imminently.

The moves by the White House appeared both unprecedented and punitive …

And to be clear, this isn’t me blaming the Democrats for taking this strategy. They did not bringing this on themselves. If it weren’t the shutdown it would be something else that Trump seizes on to justify punitive actions — or simply do it anyway without even a wisp of justification.

But embedded in this thinking is so much of what has sent the Republican Party off the rails. Government isn’t for everybody, only for the winners of the last election. Government benefits are doled out preferentially based on tribal loyalties. Government is a liberal game that conservatives refuse to play. When in power, conservatives don’t run the government, they occupy it like an invading force.

All of these political attitudes are anathema to democratic governance, civil society, and the rule of law. It’s why the political fight of our time is so asymmetrical. Trump doesn’t care if he breaks government, leaves it in a shambles, or inflicts extreme collateral damage along the way. He’s taking the government hostage because he (rightly) believes Democrats care about it and want to save and preserve it.

That’s the perverse advantage he has in the government shutdown negotiations. It’s what wrecks the chance of political compromises that might have been possible in a different time with different politics. Trump doesn’t give a fuck. It’s like negotiating with a terrorist. He’ll hold anyone and anything hostage if it advances his immediate interests.

It’s why the old template for news coverage of a government shutdown is so not compelling. This isn’t an impasse over policies or legislation. It’s most assuredly not the old “gridlock” in Washington. It’s not even a partisan fight in the traditional sense. Trump and the MAGA hordes have laid siege to the government from inside its walls, much as they auto-couped on Jan. 6. We’ve never seen anything like it in our entire history.

Kavanaugh Stops

The legal nerd humor on social media (I know, but bear with me …) is all about Kavanaugh stops, a play on Terry stops, an actual legal term. Kavanaugh stops arise from Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s hollow concurrence in the Supreme Court emergency ruling last month that permitted the Trump administration to resume “roving” ICE raids in Los Angeles.

Kavanaugh obtusely envisioned a make-believe-world in which immigration officers would only “briefly” detain people on reasonable suspicion that they were undocumented migrants and then quickly send on their way the temporary detainees who could prove their proper legal status. It’s all fiiiine, Kavanaugh insisted:

… as for stops of those individuals who are legally in the country, the questioning in those circumstances is typically brief, and those individuals may promptly go free after making clear to the immigration officers that they are U. S. citizens or otherwise legally in the United States.

Legal experts and immigration lawyers immediately heaped scorn on Kavanaugh’s concurrence — which used some form of “brief” or “briefly” eight times in its roughly nine pages — and subsequent events have born out how wrong-headed Kavanaugh was.

In Alabama, a construction worker who is a U.S.-born citizen has filed a class action lawsuit alleging he’s been detained twice on the job after his REAL ID was deemed insufficient by immigration officers. But that’s nothing compared to what allegedly happened in Chicago this week.

Immigration and law enforcement officers raided a five-story Chicago apartment building in the middle of the night Monday that allegedly swept up numerous U.S. citizens. The Department of Homeland Security said 37 people were arrested in the raid. But residents claim they were detained for hours while their citizenship statuses was checked, the Sun-Times reported:

Rodrick Johnson, 67, is one of many residents who were detained by federal agents during the South Shore raid. A U.S. citizen, he said agents broke through his door and dragged him out in zip ties.

Johnson said he was left tied up outside the building for nearly three hours before agents finally let him go.

The ABC News affiliate talked to a resident who reported similar mistreatment:

ABC7 spoke to Pertissue Fisher, a woman who lives in the building. She said ICE agents took everyone in the building, including her, and asked questions later. …

Fisher said she came out to the hallway of her apartment complex on the corner of 75th and South Shore Drive in her nightgown around 10 p.m. Monday only to find armed ICE agents yelling “police.” …

Fisher said she was handcuffed before being released around 3 a.m. …

Is that the kind of reasonable suspicion Kavanaugh had in mind?

Mass Deportations: Catching You Up Edition

  • The full 5th Circuit Court of Appeals will rehear the Alien Enemies Act case in which a three-judge panel found President Trump unlawfully invoked the wartime statute.
  • An immigration judge — whose executive branch job was probably on the line — rejected the request by Kilmar Abrego Garcia to reopen his deportation case. The judge said there was “insufficient evidence” to show that the Trump administration would send Abrego to Uganda, even though DHS posted on social media that it would deport him to Uganda and a government lawyer said it “may remove him to Uganda.”
  • If you want more on this week’s epic Trump era ruling by U.S. District Judge William Young of Boston, Chris Geidner goes deep on it: “Young does more in one decision than perhaps any public official has done this year to detail the specific methods President Donald Trump and the Trump administration use to act illegally and unconstitutionally, the many ways the other branches and outside institutions have capitulated to those acts, and the essential and powerful ways people — and the legal system — can push back.”

Trump’s Attack on Higher Ed: ‘Compact’ Edition

The earlier reported Trump administration threat to peg federal funding to pledges of fealty to the Trump agenda has manifested itself as a “compact” for universities to sign in order to get preferential funding treatment. The so-called compact enshrines many of the Trump administration’s attacks on higher education.

Lisa Cook Survives for Now

The Supreme Court rejected a Trump request for his firing of Federal Reserve governor Lisa Cook to take effect while the appeal of the case proceeds.

The Purges: Still Going, Still Absurd

  • Under public pressure online from a conservative activist, the Trump DOJ fired a top national security prosecutor in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia who was falsely accused of being resistant to the prosecution of former FBI Director James Comey. The prosecutor, Michael Ben’Ary, was not involved in the Comey case, CNN reports.
  • The Trump White House on Wednesday abruptly fired nearly all of the members of the National Council on the Humanities.
  • The head of the Dwight Eisenhower presidential library was reportedly forced to resign after he refused to allow President Trump to gift King Charles a sword that belonged to Eisenhower during the president state visit to the United Kingdom last month. Todd Arrington, a career federal employee, resisted the request for the sword because it belongs to the U.S. government and under federal law and agency regulations, he could not provide it, according to reports.

The REST of the Story

A feel-good followup to a viral 2011 moment in the struggle for LGBTQ civil rights:

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Trump’s NLRB Nominees Get Grilled While Board Faces Uncertain Future

For months, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) has lacked the quorum it needs to function — a state of affairs created in part when President Trump fired board member Gwynne A. Wilcox, a Democrat, in late January. 

That could soon change. In July, Trump nominated Scott Mayer, a lawyer for Boeing, and James Murphy, a staffer for previous Republican board members, to fill two Republican seats on the NLRB. 

Their confirmation is not yet a sure thing. Mayer in particular faced tough questions during a Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee confirmation hearing Wednesday, including from Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO), whose vote he would need to win. A committee vote has not yet been scheduled, according to a committee spokesperson.

But even if the nominees are confirmed and the board does return to action, individual nominees’ records and political leanings will, experts said, matter less than they did in the past, amid Trump’s reinterpretation of his authority over the board — an interpretation the Supreme Court looks likely to go along with. His firing of Wilcox and NLRB General Counsel Jennifer Abruzzo had clear implications for anyone who wants to keep their job on the board.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) got at this idea, asking each nominee if they’d be able to act independently of influence from the president.

Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) was more pointed.

“If directed by the president to take an action that would break the law,” she asked each nominee, “would you follow the law or follow the president’s directive?”

Both nominees said they’d follow the law, but also rejected the idea that Trump would ask them to break it, despite Trump’s repeated assaults on independent agency autonomy over the last several months.

‘Two anti-worker men’

Hawley sparred with Mayer — currently the chief labor counsel at Boeing — over a strike involving 3,200 of the plane manufacturer’s machinists in MissouriBoeing’s planes “were literally falling out of the sky in pieces and you weren’t paying your workers,” though former Boeing CEO David Calhoun received $32.8 million in annual compensation, Hawley said.

“Are we going to get to a fair resolution where these workers get paid,” Hawley asked later, “or are these folks gonna be permanently replaced by non-union workers?”

Mayer said that he’s not involved in those negotiations.

Nominees would need a simple majority — in this case, every GOP senator — to advance out of committee. Hawley, who has branded himself as a pro-labor Republican, in July threatened the confirmation of Trump’s NLRB general counsel nominee Crystal Carey when he questioned her over her opposition to a 2024 board decision finding that employers who force workers to attend anti-unionization meetings are violating federal labor law. Carey has still not received a committee vote.

TPM reached out to Hawley’s office for comment on how he might vote on these nominees.

Sanders, the ranking member in the committee, followed a similar line of questioning. 

“Do you think it’s fair that workers lose their health benefits during this strike while the CEO gets $18 million for four months’ of work?” he asked. 

He was referring to news reports about new Boeing CEO Kelly Ortberg’s compensation after she assumed the role toward the end of last year. At the same time, Sanders noted, striking workers would lose their health care benefits. In response, Mayer again asserted he hadn’t been involved in the Missouri negotiations, and touted an agreement that union members ultimately rejected.

If confirmed by the whole Senate, Mayer and Murphy will join the NLRB’s only member, Democratic appointee David A. Prouty, returning the usually five-person board to a three-person quorum with two GOP members and one Democratic one. Historically, the political affiliation of the board members breaks along a 3-2 split, with the majority coming from the president’s political party. With a quorum, the board should be able to return to its work of helping settle labor disputes as outlined under the National Labor Relations Act. 

Much of Wednesday’s committee hearing focused on Mayer’s work for Boeing during the 2024 Boeing machinists’ strike, which lasted more than 50 days and ultimately resulted in the workers getting a 38% pay increase over four years.

Murphy, on the other hand, is retired and has an extensive background with the NLRB, having served for decades as a staff member and as a career NLRB lawyer. During the hearing, he emphasized his desire to work through the board’s case backlog.

Labor organizations decried Trump’s appointment of both Mayer and Murphy, predicting a shift toward pro-employer rulings. Claude Cummings Jr., president of the Communications Workers of America (CWA), put out a statement calling Murphy and Mayer “two anti-worker men, who have elevated corporate interests above workers’ rights for decades.” The New Jersey AFL-CIO said in a July article Mayer’s nomination specifically “raises alarms for the labor movement.”

An agency under Trump’s thumb?

But the question of whether individual board members’ background and beliefs matter in the wake of Wilcox’s firing lingered over the hearing. 

Wilcox was nominated by former President Joe Biden and became the first Black woman to serve on the board when she was appointed in August 2021. Before that, she’d worked as an attorney for the New York City-based regional NLRB office and represented unions for a New York-based law firm. Trump removed Wilcox and Abruzzo, also a Democrat, within days of his taking office. In the removal letter, Trump said the NLRB wasn’t “fulfilling its responsibility to the American people,” and that Wilcox and Abruzzo hadn’t “been operating in a manner consistent with the objectives of my administration.”

Incorrectly identifying Wilcox as an NLRB commissioner (the NLRB has no commissioners) Trump wrote he believed Wilcox “unduly” disfavored employers. The implications, said Margaret Poydock of the Economic Policy Institute, is that the newly-appointed board members are expected to rule in favor of employers. That could negatively influence unions’ decisions to bring issues before the board, Poydock told TPM.

“[Trump] kind of gave this justification that if a board member is not favoring employers, they might risk losing their job,” Poydock said of Trump’s letter firing Wilcox. “So workers or union organizers or labor unions may not want to go to a board whose kind of mandate is to favor an employer over the worker.” 

Poydock co-authored an article which found the NLRB has continued to process cases through its 12 regional offices, where most cases are handled.

As of August, the NLRB closed 10% more cases than at the same time in the previous two years. That’s thanks in part to a perfect storm of positive developments for the board, including NLRB budget increases under Biden and general counsels under Biden and Trump, said Poydock, who have prioritized decreasing the board’s case backlog.

Still, without a quorum, the national board can’t address workers’ rights violations via requests for review or enforce its own rulings.

“If a private sector worker’s rights are violated under the [National Labor Relations Act], the NLRB is the only way for them to seek justice,” Poydock said. “And so justice is not being served because these cases aren’t being heard. So, there’s really nothing to prevent employers from violating workers’ rights because the mechanism that dissuades them or reprimands them is currently not working.”

Wilcox sued the administration for wrongful termination soon after her removal. While a lower court judge granted Wilcox’s motion to remain on the NLRB until her case was resolved, the D.C. Circuit Court and ultimately the Supreme Court ruled against reinstating Wilcox while her challenge to Trump makes its way through the legal system.

This post originally misidentified an aspect of James Murphy’s employment history. This article has been updated to correctly identify the gender of the Boeing CEO.