Lawyer For Plaintiffs In Landmark SCOTUS Case On Gay Rights Explains Why They Won

WASHINGTON, Dec. 4, 2019 -- Stanford University Law Professor Pamela Karlan waits to testify before the U.S. House Judiciary Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington D.C., the United States, on Dec. 4, 2019. The Democrat-led House Judiciary Committee took over a months-long impeachment proceeding into U.S. President Donald Trump by holding its first hearing on Wednesday. (Photo by Liu Jie/Xinhua via Getty)
Stanford University Law Professor Pamela Karlan waits to testify before the House Judiciary Committee on December 4, 2019. (Xinhua/Liu Jie via Getty Images)
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Pamela Karlan, the attorney who represented the plaintiffs in the landmark Supreme Court case that ruled in favor of LGBTQ workplace protections, asserted on Monday that the stunning victory was a result of simply following the law as written.

During an interview on MSNBC, Karlan said the blockbuster decision “follows directly from the text of Title VII” in the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

“Title VII says you can’t fire a worker because of that worker’s sex,” she explained. “If you have two workers named Bobby, one of whom is male and one is female, and you fire the male worker named Bobby because he marries somebody named Pete but you don’t fire the female worker for marrying somebody named Pete, that’s sex discrimination, pure and simple.”

The attorney asserted that the six justices who sided with her clients, including Trump-appointed Justice Neil Gorsuch, “took the text of Title VII seriously” instead of basing their decision on what the lawmakers behind the Civil Rights Act may have intended.

“Because whatever [the lawmakers] intended to do, the words they wrote cover lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender workers the same as every other worker,” Karlan said.

As to why Gorsuch made the surprising move and even wrote the majority opinion, Karlan said that “textualists” like Gorsuch will put aside personal politics to follow the law as written.

“Justice Gorsuch was not making a statement about what he would have done if he had been in Congress in 1964,” the lawyer said. “He was making a statement about what the words Congress used in 1964 mean.”

Watch Karlan below:

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  1. Question for fellow commenters: Recall Indianapolis Catholic high schools firing gay teachers who married?

    My former hs, Brebeuf Prep, resisted and was expelled from the Indy diocese. The others opted to fire teachers.

    Do these teachers have recourse under this decision, or does being private religious schools exempt their employers?

  2. “Why did we win? Because we got six votes!”

    Seriously, kudos to Prof. Karlan and those with her. And to the plaintiffs, who suffered so much (one died before the ruling), and waited so long.

  3. Cuz it was the right thing to do?

  4. Avatar for hej hej says:

    Yes that Prof. Karlan.

  5. the stunning victory was a result of simply following the law as written.

    This is what the winner always says. Of course, the losers also say their rejected position is a result of following the text of the law as written:

    our duty is to interpret statutory terms to “mean what they conveyed to reasonable people at the time they were written.” [Alito, dissent]

    The idea that judges simply follow textualist principles and arrive at an inevitable result is pure fantasy.

    More commonly, the result is chosen first and the reasoning follows afterwards.

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