CNN anchor Don Lemon was not ready to return to the debate over the word “thug” on Tuesday night, in the aftermath of the fatal shootout between a biker gang in Waco, Texas.
His colleague Sally Kohn was on to discuss her op-ed piece accusing the media of a double standard for labeling Baltimore protestors “thugs” while refraining to apply the same terms to the bikers.
Lemon was not moved.
“On the language part, and on the media double-standard, I think it’s bull,” he said.
“Not everyone believes that thug is a new way of saying the N-word,” Lemon continued.
“The first thing that comes to my mind with thug is not a black person — it’s Tony Soprano, it’s someone who does something bad,” he added.
Kohn attempted to push back, but Lemon was on a roll.
“They are thugs! People in Baltimore who rioted and burned down buildings, they were thugs! The people in Waco who shot people are thugs!” he said. “It has nothing to do with black or white!”
Retired New York police detective Harry Houck began clapping for Lemon.
Lemon later interrupted New York Times columnist Charles Blow to put up an image of the bikers, repeatedly shouting, “not all of these people are white!”
Despite Kohn’s attempts to cut back in, the conversation soon devolved into a shouting match.