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Listen To This: The Case For Optimism

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December 28, 2023 11:01 a.m.
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A new episode of The Josh Marshall Podcast is live! This week, Josh and Kate discuss presidential immunity, the major Wisconsin maps ruling, and feelings of hope heading into 2024.

You can listen to the new episode of The Josh Marshall Podcast here.

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