I’ve treated it as a given that Trump is the nominee in 2024 if he wants to be. But today’s “Major Announcement” from Trump, which ended up being a new set of NFT playing cards with Trump in a bulging Superman suit, crystalizes my growing doubts about whether he still has the juice to go another round. We’ve also seen a couple polls this week which show a clear majority of self-described Republican primary voters prefer Ron DeSantis over Trump, albeit with DeSantis continuing Trump’s policies. But polls can change. Nor does a poll more than a year out from the first primary capture all the kinetic dimensions of an actual primary battle. What is less changeable are the growing signs that Trump is just a loser.
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A new episode of The Josh Marshall Podcast is live! This week, Josh and Kate discuss TPM’s series on The Meadows’ Texts, which went to 34 members of Congress and numerous figures, and that show the plot to overturn the election in real time.
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It’s All Meadows Texts All The Time
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What A Week
TPM’s series on the Meadows Texts continues to be the dominant news story of the week. A big shoutout to the entire TPM team for the hard work and long hours required to pull this off. It was an all-hands-on-deck effort. Special kudos to lead reporter Hunter Walker and lead editor John Light.
Let’s dive right into the past 24 hours of coverage.
The Latest On The Meadows Texts
The two newest installments in our ongoing series:
- Texts Show How Members Of Congress Advanced ‘Antifa’ Conspiracy Theories In The Wake Of Jan. 6
- Texts Expose Giuliani Legal Team’s Divisive Election ‘Circus’ And Requests For Cash
TPM On TV
Hunter Walker was on last night with Chris Hayes, who is just as into the Meadows Texts as we are:
TPM On The Radio
Josh Kovensky talks with Atlanta NPR station WABE. Listen.
So Much More TV Coverage!
Morning Joe marvels over the Meadows Texts:
Joy Reid talks about the Meadows Texts with Asha Rangappa:
Ari Melber goes deeper on the Meadows Texts:
Lawrence O’Donnell zeroes in on our coverage of Rudy Giuliani’s appearance in the Meadows Texts:
More Reactions!
Harry Litman: “Don’t ask don’t tell how @TPM got its hands on the Meadows texts, but they’ve performed a real public service. The texts are totally damning and show not just Meadows but lawmakers (34 of them!) and others all willingly conspiring in the Big Lie attempted coup. Utterly shameful.”
Joyce Vance: “The burdens of proof are different in courts of law & the court of public opinion. Whether any of these members of Congress are ever prosecuted, the text messages are compelling evidence there were elected officials willing to disregard the Constitution to hold power.”
Jonathan Chait: “Text messages to and from White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows around the time of the January 6 insurrection, obtained by Talking Points Memo, confirm the impression. Meadows and his allies in Congress truly believed the election was stolen and truly believed they could and should steal it back. In these messages, Republicans can be seen over and over again repeating wild conspiracy theories about voting machines …”
Pushback!
Not everyone is happy with our series on the Meadows Texts:
- Here’s former Trump DOJ official Jeffrey Clark — you remember the guy Trump wanted to install as acting attorney general to complete all the couping — seeming to go after TPM’s Josh Kovensky for his “ties to Ukraine.” (Before coming to TPM, Kovensky wrote for the English-language Kyiv Post.)
- Sean Hannity was very not happy about being contacted for a Meadows Texts story:
We Have Memes!
Local Coverage Of The Meadows Texts
Atlanta Journal-Constitution: “Texts show Georgia Republicans sharing election conspiracy theories to aid Trump”
City & State PA: “A timeline of Scott Perry’s texts following the 2020 election”
The Deepest Cuts On the Meadows Texts
Sarah Posner: “Newly revealed texts between Allen and former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, published while the hearing was in progress, dramatically show how deeply Christian nationalist ideology runs through the Republican Party, and how it continues to underlie Republicans’ ongoing denial that Jan. 6 was a violent attempt to overthrow the government.”
And text messages from House Republicans to Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, unearthed by Talking Points Memo, show members of Congress scheming in the run-up to Jan. 6 to overturn Trump’s loss in all kinds of ways, with one even calling for Trump to declare martial law.
What all this means is that the insurrectionist spirit will run strong in next year’s GOP-controlled House, which would be likely to try to help with any effort by Trump — or an imitator — to subvert the 2024 presidential election. Under current law, if a GOP-controlled state legislature appointed electors for the Republican nominee in defiance of the state’s popular vote, the GOP House could count those electors, leading to a stolen election or constitutional crisis.
Jack Smith On The Case
CNN confirms: “Smith’s team has now sent subpoenas to local and state officials in all seven of the key states – Georgia, New Mexico, Nevada, Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin – targeted by former President Donald Trump Trump and his allies as part of their bid to upend Joe Biden’s legitimate victory.”
Forgot About This One
How could I forget! Former Trump official Peter Navarro is still facing contempt of Congress charges. His trial is now scheduled to begin Jan. 30.
Good Reads
Boston Globe: “Like a plot from ‘The Americans’: An alleged Russian smuggling ring found in N.H. town”
Daily Beast: “Inside the Jury Room for the Trump Org Criminal Trial”
NYT: “Trump Organization Was Held in Contempt After Secret Trial Last Year”
The Ritualistic Defenestration Of Kevin McCarthy
If not for the Meadows Texts, the wraithing of Kevin McCarthy would be can’t-stop-watching story of the week.
Politico: “Come on down? House GOP weighs the right price to topple a speaker”
CNN: “McCarthy’s impossible GOP math”
NYT: “Despite Trump’s Lobbying, McCarthy’s Speaker Bid Remains Imperiled on the Right”
CNN: McCarthy Snaps At CNN Reporter
Receding Into The Past
The new official portrait of Nancy Pelosi unveiled yesterday at the Capitol:
The U.S. Postal Service will honor the late John Lewis with a new commemorative stamp:
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Texts Expose Giuliani Legal Team’s Divisive Election ‘Circus’ And Requests For Cash
It was just shy of six weeks after the 2020 election and Jason Miller, a top campaign adviser to former President Trump, had a problem.
Continue reading “Texts Expose Giuliani Legal Team’s Divisive Election ‘Circus’ And Requests For Cash”Texts Show How Members Of Congress Advanced ‘Antifa’ Conspiracy Theories In The Wake Of Jan. 6
Within two hours of protesters breaking the first barricades at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, right-wing politicians and media figures were already texting President Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to lay blame on far-left “antifa” agitators. The first message to mention the group came from Fox New host Laura Ingraham.
“He is destroying his legacy and playing into every stereotype … we lose all credibility against the BLM/Antifa crowd if things go South,” Ingraham wrote.
The text is one of the 2,319 Meadows turned over to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, which took place as thousands of Trump supporters converged on Washington, D.C., to protest his loss in the 2020 presidential election. TPM has obtained the log, which contains several exchanges showing the eagerness among Trump allies to blame the violence they helped stoke on their political enemies. A spokesperson for Meadows declined to comment on this story. The committee has not responded to multiple requests for comment.
While CNN has published many of Meadows’ messages from Jan. 5 and the day of the riot, the full log, which stretched from Election Day in 2020 up until Trump’s last day in office, Jan. 20, 2021, reveals that the effort to pin the violence on “antifa” extended well beyond the day the Capitol was stormed. It also shows that members of Congress were key proponents of this conspiracy theory despite the fact they were present at the Capitol as Trump supporters brawled with police and smashed through the building. In the wake of a massive FBI investigation that is the largest in the bureau’s history and has resulted in hundreds of arrests of people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, there has been no credible evidence of any widespread far-left presence.
Ingraham promoted the idea that “antifa” was behind the Jan. 6 attack hours after it took place, telling her audience that the insurgents “were likely not all Trump supporters, and there are some reports that antifa sympathizers may have been sprinkled throughout the crowd.”
Last year, when her texts were first made public, she accused the “regime media” of attacking her, saying they were “somehow trying to twist this message to try to tar me as a liar, a hypocrite who privately sounded the alarm on Jan. 6, but publicly downplayed it.”
“Antifa” is short for anti-fascist. The term is used by a variety of left-wing protesters, some of whom adopt “black bloc” tactics including wearing masks, engaging in vandalism and fighting with far-right groups. “Antifa” activism surged in the U.S. during Trump’s administration.
As the crowds raged through the Capitol, Donald Trump Jr., the president’s son, wrote Meadows to say his father was not doing “enough” to “condemn this shit.” He followed that denouncement up with a suggestion the violence wasn’t coming from the Trump faithful.
“I’m not convinced these are trump supporters either btw so we should be looking into that,” Don Jr. wrote.
Don Jr. did not return TPM’s request for comment.
Less than an hour later, Jason Miller, a Trump campaign adviser, suggested “antifa” could be held responsible via a tweet from the president.
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Miller did not respond to a request for comment.
Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and Louie Gohmert (R-TX), who were both active supporters of Trump’s efforts to challenge the election results, also piped in as the attack unfolded with suggestions that “antifa” were the real perpetrators.
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Greene continued to point toward “antifa” in a message sent the day after the attack.
“Yesterday was a terrible day. We tried everything we could in our objection to the 6 states. I’m sorry nothing worked,” Greene wrote. “I don’t think that President Trump caused the attack on the Capitol. It’s not his fault. Antifa was mixed in the crowed and instigated it, and sadly people followed.”
“Thanks Marjorie,” Meadows replied.
Greene and her office did not respond to requests for comment.
Gohmert urged Meadows to have the DOJ expose the supposed “antifa” role in the Capitol attack in one more message sent on the afternoon of Jan. 8.
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Gohmert released his texts regarding “antifa” on his own in April after they were partially revealed by the select committee. He also issued a statement blasting what he called the “January 6 Inquisition Committee,” defending his texts and pointing to another conspiracy theory that has been somewhat popular among right-wing members of Congress: the idea the FBI was behind the violence at the Capitol.
“The FBI ‘informants’ who were embedded deep into the events the night before and on January 6th have yet to be identified and their provocative actions have not yet been explained,” Gohmert said.
On Jan. 8 and 9, 2021, Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL), who was described in texts as a “ringleader” of the election objections, pointed to right-wing media coverage of the antifa conspiracy theory. One of the items highlighted by Brooks was a television segment that apparently featured Gohmert making the claim Capitol Police warned him of “ANTIFI” plans to infiltrate the pro-Trump protests. Brooks said Rep. Rick Allen (R-GA), who texted Meadows wild conspiracy theories in the weeks after the 2020 election, made a similar claim to him about the Capitol Police. These texts from Brooks are being reported here for the first time.
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In a Monday phone interview with TPM, Brooks said that he now believed that “right-wing militia groups hijacked what was otherwise going to be a lawful assertion of First Amendment rights.”
“Yes, antifa played a role, but it was very minor,” Brooks told TPM, before complaining that the right-wing militias “were dramatically counterproductive and they dramatically hurt our cause for election integrity by hijacking our ability to communicate to the American people about the fraud.”
There remains no evidence to suggest that antifa played any role — even a minor one — in the attack.
Ten days after the attack, Derek Harvey, a staffer for Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA), a staunch Trump ally, also pushed an antifa conspiracy theory, according to Meadows’ text log. Harvey, who did not respond to a request for comment, sent Meadows a link to an article from a far-right website that was purportedly based on online chats where a man named John Sullivan and two anonymous internet users who indicated they were not Trump supporters claimed to have been among the crowds.
Sullivan, who was charged with breaking into the Capitol building, has been a fixation for many on the right since he participated in anti-Trump protests prior to Jan. 6. Brooks alluded to him during the phone interview with TPM, and his actions during the Capitol attack were extensively detailed in an affidavit given by the FBI on Jan. 13, 2021, in support of his arrest warrant. In that affidavit, investigators did not describe any connection between far-left groups and Sullivan’s role in the storming of the Capitol. No evidence has been found linking Sullivan to antifa.
On Wednesday, Sullivan denied that he was a part of the movement in a phone call with TPM.
“Are they saying I have mind control? And that suddenly antifa controlled all the Trump supporters who were there?” Sullivan told TPM. “They’re trying to find an excuse to liberate themselves from the blame of that day.”
Experts describe “antifa” as a natural bogeyman and scapegoat for the pro-Trump right, particularly in the aftermath of the Capitol attack. In a conversation with TPM, Denver Riggleman, a former Republican congressman and Air Force intelligence officer who helped lead the team of investigators for the House select committee that obtained and parsed Meadows’ text messages, suggested some Trump allies were exploiting the “true believers” by feeding them a “false flag” antifa conspiracy theory.
“First of all, you had a combination of savvy communicators like Jason Miller who saw the antifa false flag as an opportunity, and he knows that Louie Gohmert and Marjorie Taylor Greene are dumb as a bag of rocks,” Riggleman said.
Riggleman, who wrote “The Breach: The Untold Story of the Investigation into January 6th,” also noted that, in the weeks and months after the attack, elements of the far right — including those in Congress — cycled through various conspiracy theories including trying to pin the attack on the FBI or nefarious government agents. (Full disclosure: TPM’s Hunter Walker co-authored “The Breach” with Riggleman.)
“But you also see that they started to morph away from that conspiracy theory when it wasn’t working,” Riggleman said of the “antifa” narrative. “With conspiracy theories, inconsistency is a feature, not a bug. They want to hit people in the amygdala; all this is a quick fix to hit the emotional note that you need for people to react to.”
Anna Merlan, a senior staff writer for Vice who wrote the book “Republic of Lies” on the history of conspiracy theories in the U.S., described how “antifa’s” role had been magnified by Trump supporters who cast the group as “the representatives of a much larger force.”
“Really since the start of the Trump presidency, antifa has been depicted as the shock troops of the Democrat-backed attempt to overthrow the president. Or, you know, commit acts of violence in the name of either discrediting Trump or seeking to overthrow him,” Merlan said.
According to Merlan, part of what makes this strategy effective is the fact that the right has long had “a sort of anxiety over an illegitimate, militarized police state taking over control of U.S. citizens through the use of street violence.”
“This has been an anxiety on the right or the far right since the 1970s. So antifa is the new name for the forces that they believe are going to be part of this,” Merlan said.
And, in the wake of Jan. 6, Merlan also noted “antifa” came to serve a function and deflect blame for the far right.
“When it comes to Jan. 6, the idea is essentially to deny or displace the violence that happened on that day,” Merlan said, adding, “The idea of antifa being a reliable bogeyman is that there won’t be any act of violence that won’t be denied or displaced.”
Strongman Envy
One of the most bracing, bizarre aspects of Mark Meadows texts with members of Congress is the fact that many truly seemed to believe the most absurd claims and conspiracy theories. This wasn’t just red meat they were tossing out on Fox and Newsmax. They were saying this stuff, in earnest, in the privacy of text messages with longtime colleagues. But even this, I would say, isn’t the heart of the matter. There’s something else we see in the very first texts, before the TV networks called the race but when the writing was clearly on the wall. It can most easily be summarized as: Trump can’t be allowed to lose. On Nov. 6, 2020, Rep. Brian Babin tells Meadows that they “refuse to live under a corrupt Marxist dictatorship.”
Continue reading “Strongman Envy”Following News About GOPers Role In Election Overturning, Schumer Lights Fire Under ECA Reform
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) announced on Tuesday that he expects there will be action on the Electoral Count Act reform before the new Congress takes over in January.
The Democratic leader said he anticipates the end-of-year omnibus spending bill that’s currently being negotiated will include reform on the outdated 1887 law — which lays out how presidential electors are counted in Congress.
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