If you’re hankering for an interesting discussing this Sunday afternoon, check out my conversation with Gen. Mike Hayden (former head of the NSA and CIA under Clinton and Bush). We talk about his intelligence career, what military intelligence officers do, information warfare and how Russia was field testing their information operations in 2014 and 2016, in advance of what they did in the 2016 campaign. In fact, as he explains, they’re continuing to amplify President Trump’s attacks on NFL players like Colin Kaepernick. Down to today. Fascinating conversation about these and other topics. Listen to it here in the latest episode of The Josh Marshall Podcast.