Disdain For DeSantis May Force Trump To Actually Land Somewhere On Abortion

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As TPM has been reporting since Roe’s overturning: The electoral backlash to the Dobbs ruling has Republicans — especially 2024 Republicans — queasy about staking out a position on abortion. And no one has been more vague about what abortion policy they’d support as president than Donald Trump.

In recent weeks, some Republicans made it clear they plan to take their chances on a 15-week nationwide ban. People like Mike Pence and Glenn Younkin, for example, are betting that Republican voters who have reacted aversely to extreme bans on the procedure in red states, may see the 15-week approach as more humane than the type of universal bans with no exceptions that have long been associated with the supposed “pro-life” movement.

But most have clung to anti-abortion platitudes. 2024 candidate Nikki Haley, for example, often raises her conservative and “pro-life” bonafides when questioned about her position on abortion. Her line was no different during the first Republican debate, but she also hid behind the limitations of the filibuster, saying it didn’t matter where she stood on a 15-week ban because it wouldn’t get 60 votes in the Senate.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has maintained he would be a “pro-life” president if elected, but on the campaign trail he has refused to outright embrace the extreme 6-week ban he signed into law in his state earlier this year.

Trump has been the most intentionally hazy, though, refusing to traffic in specifics and pointing to some Grand Plan to sit down with “both sides” and work out some sort of deal as president. He first raised this far-fetched cop out during the CNN town hall earlier this year and brought it up again this weekend when NBC’s Kristen Welker asked him where he stood.

“What’s going to happen is you’re going to come up with a number of weeks or months,” Trump said, adding that it would result in “peace on that issue for the first time in 52 years.”

“You’re going to come up with a number that’s going to make people happy.”

While he stuck with the same shrug toward negotiating an amorphous, unlikely deal, Trump also kinda sorta came out against six-week abortion bans, but only as a broadside to his former ally and 2024 challenger.

When asked if he thought the Florida governor had gone too far in signing his six-week abortion ban into law, Trump unflinchingly described it as “terrible.”

“I think what he did is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake.”

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  1. They still have no business getting into the decision.

  2. Supporting a national policy that allows for abortions up to 15 weeks is nothing short of an admission by Republicans that for 40 years they have been playing/lying to those who vote on for them because they want all abortion illegal.

    Noting that 93%+ of all abortions are performed in the first 15 weeks of pregnancy, such a position says to the anti abortion voters, those who for over 40 years have been supporting Republicans because of this one issue and in spite of the fact that on economic and other issues Republican policies hurt them and their values, that in fact Republicans were never serious about outlawing abortion.

    In short for Republicans like Trump and the rest to now say they support keeping abortion legal for the first 15 weeks of pregnancy is an admission that “values” in front of the word voter is and has always been code for race.

  3. I completely agree with this.

    To say that there should be any limits on abortion is to say women are not capable of making decisions about what to do with their own bodies which also makes them inferior to men.

    I mean to anyone who thinks that any woman after carrying a baby for 7 or months makes air head decision to terminate her pregnancy is either to arrogant to actually know any woman and I don’t care how long they have been married or how many wives they may have had.

  4. Of course, that was one of his rare moments of ignorant truth-speaking. The anti-abortion contingent has always been two-faced and oxymoronic on the subject. They want to punish the procedure, but somehow claim the women who attempt to have the procedure are still blameless. They always target the doctors and nurses and the people who assist the woman before or afterwards.

    Yet somehow, they want to say the woman isn’t to blame (she apparently doesn’t have the agency to make the decision she clearly made). So Trump was just ignorantly taking the issue to its actual logical conclusion: if the procedure is “bad,” then the women who get one should be punished as well as everyone else involved. He lacked the nuance to understand that their position is farcical (if it weren’t so dehumanizing and harmful) and just tried to ape the conclusion that their position actually demands.

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