Ep. 37: The Most Disturbing Thing In A 50-Year Intelligence Career

Josh talks to former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper about his new book, “Facts and Fears: Hard Truths from a Life in Intelligence.” Their conversation ranges from his early days in the military during Vietnam to the Obama presidency and President Trump’s perplexing relationship with Russia.

“I’ve seen a lot of bad stuff in my 50-plus years in intelligence,” he tells Josh, “but I don’t think anything that disturbed me as much as the magnitude and aggressiveness and multidimensional nature of the Russian interference in our election in 2016.”