What Dems Need From The First Public Impeachment Hearing

WASHINGTON, DC - OCTOBER 22: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) leaves a closed session before the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees October 22, 2019 in Washingto... WASHINGTON, DC - OCTOBER 22: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) leaves a closed session before the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees October 22, 2019 in Washington, DC. Bill Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat to Ukraine, is expected to testify to house committees in the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump relating to the US-Ukraine relationship. (Photo by Alex Wroblewski/Getty Images) MORE LESS
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November 13, 2019 6:00 a.m.

The House impeachment inquiry will enter a new phase Wednesday when the congressional investigation grills its first witnesses in public.

Bill Taylor, the acting Ukraine ambassador, and George Kent, the deputy assistant secretary of state for Europe and Eurasian affairs, both participated in closed-door depositions last month. But most Americans understandably haven’t found the time to read through their existing testimony transcripts, which clock in at 324 pages and 355 pages, respectively.

So the public hearings will serve as Democrats’ grand jury room — an opportunity to make a televised case to the American people that the President’s actions are impeachable.

Based on Taylor and Kent’s testimonies, as well as those of other witnesses who interacted with them, we have a rough idea of what the two witnesses know. Here’s what Democrats need from them to make a case for impeachment.

Bill Taylor

Taylor took over as acting Ukraine ambassador in June after the sudden recall of former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch the previous month. An experienced diplomat, Taylor saw (and criticized) the efforts of Trump administration officials to press Ukraine to announce investigations that would be helpful to Trump’s 2020 reelection effort.

A first-hand account. As Trump and others worked to mold Ukraine policy for political gain, Taylor experienced the pressure campaign first hand. He worked (and texted with) the two Trump officials who were most involved in pressing Ukraine for investigations — EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland and then-Ukraine special envoy Kurt Volker — and kept detailed notes of his every conversation.

Sondland and Taylor, as well as the Ukrainians with whom they interacted, provided information to Taylor on the push for politicized investigations in Ukraine, a “deliverable” that Trump wanted.

Taylor also spoke frequently with officials on the other side of the coin — career national security experts at the State Department and on the National Security Council who were flummoxed by the shadow foreign policy channel that Trump had empowered.

Taylor’s experience roots this pressure campaign in the real world: For example, during a visit to the frontlines of the ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia, Taylor was burdened with the “uncomfortable” knowledge that the White House had placed a hold on an aid package for Ukraine worth nearly $400 million.

An expert on Ukraine. Taylor has been in his current position for just a few months, but it’s actually his second time leading the U.S. mission in Ukraine — he previously served as U.S. ambassador to Ukraine from 2006 to 2009. So he’s familiar with Ukrainian history, the country’s struggle with corruption, and the hope in the diplomatic community after the election of outsider Volodymyr Zelensky in April.

Republican talking points on Trump’s pressure campaign insist the President was simply concerned about corruption in Ukraine. Taylor will be able to testify that Trump’s gloss sounds nice, but his insistence on particular investigations of his political rivals is the opposite of the U.S. anti-corruption agenda in Ukraine.

George Kent

As the State Department official in charge of overseeing policy in Ukraine, Kent was receiving information from diplomats at home and abroad about the politicization of that policy. He also dealt with the fallout after Yovanovitch’s recall, which damaged department morale.

Marie Yovanovitch’s story. Yovanovitch, the recalled Ukraine ambassador, will testify publicly for herself on Friday, the third public witness to do so. But as Yovanovitch endured a smear campaign in Ukraine, Kent untangled the web of angry Ukrainians who led the charge against her. He testified last month that the country’s then-prosecutor general, who provided dirt on Yovanovitch, gave Giuliani information with the approval of the country’s then-president.

Yovanovitch’s ouster may seem tangential to the pressure campaign now at the heart of the impeachment inquiry, but it marked a key turning point. Some of Giuliani’s initial efforts in Ukraine were aimed at the ambassador, rather than Joe Biden, and the Ukrainians feeding the former New York City mayor and his associates information on Yovanovitch would later provide fodder for Giuliani’s other work. And in September, when the White House released the call between Trump and Zelensky, Trump’s attacks against Yovanovitch put a huge dent in department morale.

Details on the “irregular” Ukraine actors. The Giuliani-led “irregular” foreign policy channel in Ukraine kept chugging after Yovanovitch was recalled, to the chagrin of the diplomatic bureaucracy in D.C.

As Rudy pursued Trump’s interests, rather than those of the United States, Kent dealt with the consequences. For example, he parried a request from Giuliani to get a visa for Viktor Shokin, the former Ukrainian prosecutor general whose firing Republicans have used to accuse Joe Biden of corruption.

Kent was impacted by this irregular channel, too: After Giuliani targeted him and others in an interview in May, Kent said he was told to “keep my head down and lower my profile in Ukraine.”

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