AP Fact Check: Sanders and Clinton Misfire On Flint, Trade In Dem Debate

Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton, left, and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., stand on stage during the National Anthem before a Democratic presidential primary debate at the University of Michigan-Flint,... Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton, left, and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., stand on stage during the National Anthem before a Democratic presidential primary debate at the University of Michigan-Flint, Sunday, March 6, 2016, in Flint, Mich. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall) MORE LESS

WASHINGTON (AP) — In their haste to show solidarity with people hurt by the water crisis in Flint, Michigan, the Democratic presidential contenders understated what officials in Michigan are doing about it.

A look at some of the claims in the debate Sunday night, staged in Flint:

HILLARY CLINTON: “The state should also be sending money immediately to help this city.”

THE FACTS: It is. So far, Michigan has come forward with $70 million and Gov. Rick Snyder has called for an additional $165 million.

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BERNIE SANDERS: “First thing is, you say people are not paying a water bill for poison, and that is retroactive.”

THE FACTS: The state Legislature already has authorized $30 million to cover, retroactively, 65 percent of the water portion of people’s water and sewer bills. That covers some, but not all, of what residents owe.

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CLINTON on the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement: “I thought it was reasonable to know what was in it before I opposed it.”

THE FACTS: Not knowing the final details of the trade deal did not stop her from taking a position on it before: She favored it before she opposed it.

As Obama’s secretary of state, Clinton was far more enthusiastic about the Pacific trade deal taking shape than she became once she was running for president and trying to appeal to the liberal wing of her party. As secretary she had given speeches around the world in support of the deal under negotiation, saying in Australia in 2012 that it “sets the gold standard in trade agreements,” a cheerleading sentiment she echoed elsewhere.

She’s said the final agreement didn’t address her concerns. But the final version actually had been modified to drop certain provisions that liberal activist groups had opposed.

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SANDERS: If you are white, “you don’t know what it’s like to be poor.”

THE FACTS: Less likely to know, but there are, of course, millions of poor whites.

The Census Bureau’s five-year American Community Survey, covering 2007 to 2011, found 14.3 percent of the overall population fell below the poverty level, with American Indians and Alaska natives being the poorest (27 percent of that group) followed by blacks (25.8 percent). Hispanic poverty rates ranged from 16.2 percent for Cubans to 26.3 percent for Dominicans.

The white poverty rate was 11.6 percent, below the national average.

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Eggert reported from Flint, Michigan.

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  1. So AP is dinging Sec. Clinton for supporting the administrations position on the TPP before the final agreement was finalized, and after leaving the administration and could take her own position on the final deal, opposed it is a “fact check”…?

    Get real.

    And for the record I support the TPP along with President Obama while Clinton and Sanders both oppose it. Reasonable people and progressives can actually have different positions on very complex global macro and microeconomic issues and they all intersect.

  2. She said she waited till she knew what was in it to decide whether she was for or against.

    As Secretary of State she didn’t know what would be in the final agreement but she knew what the US position was, she was in charge of it. Being in favor of negotiating an agreement at that point is not at all incompatible with what she said about taking a position later.

    Of course Bernie is always against trade deals regardless so like a stopped clock he is always going to be on the right side if unemployment is high when an election comes round.

    I’m not impressed by the other AP claims. No, the state has NOT put nearly enough money in. It was the Governor who took control of the city, it was the state legislature that gave him the power. The state wrecked Flint’s water supply and the state should bear the full cost of fixing it.

  3. Avatar for jcs jcs says:

    It was not final and she could not read it until it was released. As Sec of State, she was advocating for her boss.

  4. Avatar for jcs jcs says:

    Where is the fact check on Sanders statement that banning assault weapons would shut down gun manufacturing in America? And he did it while voting against the auto industry bail out.

  5. I am all for shutting down the death industry in the US. If banning assault weapons would do that, count me in.

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