Trump Ordered Perry, State Dept To Primarily Huddle With Giuliani On Ukraine

BEDMINSTER TOWNSHIP, NJ - NOVEMBER 20: (L to R) President-elect Donald Trump and former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani shake hands following their meeting at Trump International Golf Club, November 20, 2016 in Bedminster Township, New Jersey. Trump and his transition team are in the process of filling cabinet and other high level positions for the new administration. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
BEDMINSTER TOWNSHIP, NJ - NOVEMBER 20: (L to R) President-elect Donald Trump and former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani shake hands following their meeting at Trump International Golf Club, November 20, 2016 in Bed... BEDMINSTER TOWNSHIP, NJ - NOVEMBER 20: (L to R) President-elect Donald Trump and former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani shake hands following their meeting at Trump International Golf Club, November 20, 2016 in Bedminster Township, New Jersey. Trump and his transition team are in the process of filling cabinet and other high level positions for the new administration. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images) MORE LESS
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President Trump directed his energy secretary and two of his top State Department officials to work with his private attorney Rudy Giuliani to coordinate official business with the president of Ukraine as early as May, CNN reported.

According to two sources familiar with the conversation who spoke to CNN, Trump was reportedly convinced that the Ukrainian government was inherently corrupt and that if new President Volodymyr Zelensky wanted a sit-down, Giuliani would first have to be assured that wasn’t the case.

After Energy Secretary Rick Perry, U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland and the then-U.S. special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker returned from Zelensky’s inauguration, the trio hoped to sit-down with Trump to express their belief that he should meet with Zelensky. According to CNN, it became clear to the three administration officials that they’d have to work with Giuliani in order to funnel accurate information about Ukraine to the President.

“If they can satisfy Rudy, they can satisfy the President,” a person familiar with the meeting told CNN.

While it’s been known that Giuliani played a significant role in the orchestration of Trump efforts to pressure Ukraine into investigating his political rival, former Vice President Joe Biden, this is the clearest picture yet of the role President Trump played in directing officials to skirt governmental channels to work with Ukraine.

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  1. Avatar for jmacaz jmacaz says:

    Trump was reportedly convinced that the Ukrainian government was inherently corrupt

    and if anyone can recognize corruption in government it’s tRump

  2. Trump was reportedly convinced that the Ukrainian government was inherently corrupt and that if

    More likely that Giuliani (unpaid by Trump) wanted a cut of anything related to Ukraine and did want people going around him, so he convince Trump to funnel everything through him.

  3. Avatar for wvng wvng says:

    Wait, TPM, did you actually write this : "According to CNN, it became clear to the three administration officials that they’d have to work with Giuliani in order to funnel accurate information about Ukraine to the President.? ".

    I mean, be serious here.

  4. Late night looks at Sondland testimony or lack there of

    Kimmel’s reply to Donald asking for staff to under go lie detector, “you go first”!

    Kimmels

    From tonight’s #LNSM: So Trump’s White House is refusing to cooperate with the impeachment inquiry? Huh? pic.twitter.com/7tUGnuU46j

    — Late Night with Seth Meyers (@LateNightSeth) October 9, 2019
  5. According to two sources familiar with the conversation who spoke to CNN, Trump was reportedly convinced that the Ukrainian government was inherently corrupt and that if new President Volodymyr Zelensky wanted a sit-down, Giuliani would first have to be assured that wasn’t the case.

    This is self-serving BS. The phone calls were clearly about a quid-pro-quo, dirt on Biden in return for aid. Hell, Trump was counting on them being corrupt enough to manufacture the dirt. The claim that Trump was ¨concerned¨ about Ukrainian corruption is a post-facto attempt at cover-up.

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