CNN: National Security Official Testifies He Was Told To Avoid Giuliani’s Ukraine Scheme

White House Russia expert Timothy Morrison arrives for a deposition for the House impeachment inquiries at the US Capitol on October 31, 2019. (Photo by SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)
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Tim Morrison, the National Security Council’s senior director for European affairs, reportedly testified that a fellow National Security official had warned him to stay away from Rudy Giuliani’s Ukraine scheme.

Morrison told House impeachment investigators that during the summer, then-White House official Fiona Hill had advised him to avoid Giuliani’s secret efforts to pressure Ukraine to inflict political damage upon President Donald Trump’s political enemies, according to CNN.

The national security official’s opening remarks mention that he and Hill had discussed Ukraine as she was helping him transition into her former role.

“In that discussion, she informed me of her concerns about two Ukraine processes that were occurring: the normal interagency process led by the NSC with the typical department and agency participation and a separate process that involved chiefly the U.S. Ambassador to the European Union,” Morrison said. “Dr. Hill told me that Ambassador Sondland and President Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, were trying to get President Zelensky to reopen Ukrainian investigations into Burisma.”

As one of the officials who was on the infamous call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Morrison provided crucial information on Trump and Giuliani’s dealings with Ukraine.

Though Morrison told Congress he “was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed” during the call, he largely backed up acting Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor’s explosive account detailing a quid pro quo between Trump and Ukraine over military aid to Ukraine and a White House meeting.

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  1. ” Dr. Hill told me that Ambassador Sondland and President Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, were trying to get President Zelensky to reopen Ukrainian investigations into Burisma.” — Morrison

    So he was told of the irregularity wrt to Grenade Giuliani/Extorionist-In-Chief’s Ukraine scheme…but in his opening statement he said he did not see something was illegal with the PERFECT call (I have a favor though)?

    Morrison’s answers do NOT add up!

  2. Even if nothing was illegal in the strict sense, Morrison has added to weight of evidence for high crimes, and thus the case for impeachment.

  3. Agree on Morrison adding/corroborating the evidence.

    However, for someone who has worked 19 years in the govt, he does not recognize that soliciting from a foreign nation for election help is illegal…That’s the part that does NOT add up. It seems like Morrison is giving Trump/Thugs-R-Us a talking point…”It’s NOT illegal to solicit…”

  4. I give Morrison more credit than to believe he is too dimwitted to have not been suspicious about Trump’s little request for a favor. I do like his statement "I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed.” [emphasis added] because it is wonderful ambiguous about what he believes now.

  5. Yeah I’m confused about this too. Was he there in person on a phone, listening and taking notes? Or was he like some people on a conference call on the phone but playing Candy Crush on his iPad?

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