Rudy: I Never Said There Was No Collusion with Russia

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President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani has repeatedly moved the goalposts in his defense of his client in recent months. But he took a dramatic step forward Wednesday night when he claimed — falsely — that he’d never said there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. He now insists only that President Trump personally did not collude with Russia. Other members of the campaigns like Paul Manafort may have.

In the course of his discussion with CNN host Chris Cuomo, Giuliani suggested that it was possible that Paul Manafort had conspired with or was in league with interests in Russia: “He also may have had an agenda of his own. Didn’t these guys owe him a lot of money?”

Giuliani further argued that the only potential crime at issue was whether President Trump was personally involved in hacking the Democratic party servers in the Spring of 2016 or had paid others to do so. If Trump had not done that, Giuliani insisted, there was no basis for or justification for Mueller’s investigation.

Giuliani said it was time for Robert Mueller to present whatever evidence he has and end his probe.

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