Obama’s Veto Threats Over GOP Bills Foreshadow Worsened Brinkmanship

FILE - In this Nov. 7, 2014 file photo, President Barack Obama meets with Congressional leaders in the Old Family Dining Room of the White House in Washington. From left are, House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, Obama... FILE - In this Nov. 7, 2014 file photo, President Barack Obama meets with Congressional leaders in the Old Family Dining Room of the White House in Washington. From left are, House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nev., and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Ky. Republican leaders and President Barack Obama say the message of the midterm elections is clear: Voters want them to work together. But on what? The two parties’ voters, like their politicians, are far apart on health care, immigration and climate change, exit polls show. The voters can’t even agree on whether the economy is looking worse or getting better.(AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File) MORE LESS
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Veto brinkmanship between congressional Republicans and President Barack Obama was virtually absent in his first six years in office, but it’s about to unleash itself on Washington.

Until now, controversial Republican-backed legislation rarely reached the president’s desk because Senate Democrats blocked it. Starting in January, however, Republicans will control both the House and Senate, and Obama may have to decide more often whether to sign or veto GOP-crafted bills.

Obama gave lawmakers an early taste of veto politics recently when he forced congressional leaders to drop a proposed package of tax breaks that were popular with many Republican constituents. Some Democrats did support the plan, but liberals and the White House said it tilted too heavily toward corporations, not lower-income workers.

The White House also has promised to veto any bills restricting the president’s major changes to immigration policies, setting up likely showdowns early next year.

Obama’s threats present the type of bind that Republicans may face repeatedly in the next two years. They can agree to many or all of the changes he demands in legislation, or they can let him use his veto and hope Americans will blame him more than them.

It’s a gamble, especially with critical spending bills Congress soon must address. Some Republicans want to amend these must-pass bills to thwart Obama’s bid to protect millions of immigrants, now in the country illegally, from deportation.

Assuming Obama keeps his veto promise, Republican lawmakers would have to decide whether to drop their demands or let parts of the federal government close for lack of money. GOP leaders say there will be no shutdowns, but they have yet to explain how they can force Obama to back off on immigration.

The 2013 partial government shutdown occurred under similar partisan circumstances. Polls show the public blamed congressional Republicans more than the Democratic president.

It’s unclear how often Obama will face a veto decision. Even in the minority, Democratic senators can use the filibuster, the name for unlimited debate, to block many measures that break strictly along party lines.

But some proposals, such as building the Keystone XL pipeline, enjoy significant bipartisan support. They might attract enough Democratic backing to reach 60 Senate votes, overcoming a filibuster and sending the measure to Obama.

White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer said if Congress assembles legislation that Obama opposes, the White House will threaten vetoes and “if Congress decides to pass them anyway, then we’ll veto them.”

“We’re not going to go out looking for them, but we’re not going to run from them either,” he said.

Should Obama veto a proposal such as the Keystone project, the question would be whether two-thirds of the Senate and two-thirds of the House would vote to defy him. That’s the constitutional threshold for overriding a veto.

It will be critical for Republicans to put together veto-proof majorities in the House and Senate. Because any bill would require 60 Senate votes to overcome filibusters, the Senate vote would always be bipartisan and closer to the two-thirds majority needed to override a veto.

But the House would be harder, giving House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California greater sway in the end over the outcome of legislation.

Vetoes have existed since George Washington’s day, but Obama issued only two fairly minor ones in his first six years as president. His two predecessors also went light on vetoes in their early years.

Democrat Bill Clinton vetoed 37 bills, all during his last six years in office, when Republicans controlled the House and Senate. Republican George W. Bush issued no vetoes during his first four-year term. After that he vetoed eight bills when Republicans controlled both congressional chambers and four bills when Democrats held both.

Starting next month, lawmakers say, veto clashes are inevitable.

“You’re destined to see it,” said Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C.

Lawmakers say veto politics will put pressure on both parties. A veto of any bill that makes it through the Senate will frustrate some Democrats from competitive states, said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.. For instance, he said, a Keystone veto “splashes over on Democrats with a political future.”

Throughout the next presidential campaign, Graham said, likely Democratic candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton “will always have to answer, ‘Would you have vetoed that?'”

At the same time, he said, Republicans must find a way to express their anger over Obama’s executive actions on immigration without closing the government. “The politics of dealing with Obama’s overreach is tough politics for Republicans,” Graham said.

Some Democrats want Obama to use his veto powers on important issues.

“The fact that the president, I think, is determined to use the veto pen when necessary will help protect his legacy,” said Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del.

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  1. So the GOP passing bills with likely not Democratic support that they know the President doesn’t support won’t worsen brinkmanship?

    I think the blame is being laid at the wrong person’s feet here. It’s the GOP who threatened the good faith and credit of the country, who forced the sequester, who shut down the government, and who are threatening once again to shut down the government.

    Why would a left-leaning outlet like TPM be writing like publishing nonsense like this? (edited based on comment below)

  2. “The politics of dealing with Obama’s overreach is tough politics for Republicans,” Graham said.

    Because there really was no overreach?

  3. Avatar for jw1 jw1 says:

    The writers, CHARLES BABINGTON AND JIM KUHNHENN are with AP.
    Being a Sunday morning, this was likely deemed worthy for aggregation/dissemination on TPM.
    Filler basically.

    jw1

  4. Please proceed, Republicans …

  5. What difference does it make who is actually at fault? These are new times…what matters is who can be stuck with the blame. Obama didn’t shut down the government…Cruz did. Obama got a good bit of the blame for it though. That’s how it’s done now.

    Democrats have been lousy at dealing with this. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are swallowed up in 2016. Gone. A rump on the Left with no power and with the sole purpose of being the punchline of political jokes. And they deserve that. They absolutely suck at politics ( their ideas are OK though ) and there isn’t a bit of fight in them except when it comes to bashing their own.

    Democrats…you are losers and you are doing what losers do…lose. You’re going to lose more…and you know it. Look at the tenor of the bit above. It suggests that a Democrat… to survive as a Democrat has to be a closet GOP’er. You have a shot at electing a POTUS in 2016… If you get Dem enough you could screw that up too. Hand it all over to your Daddy…the GOP. After all, Hillary, the ONLY chance you have is a “deformed woman”. She’s a “corporatist” and she gets money from the big banks. So put a GOP’er in the WH…how about Cruz or Paul?

    I think a Beach Band named the Surfaries wrote your upcoming party anthem.

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