Key Trump Attorney Fights To Have 2020 Coup Arguments Legitimized

Ken Chesebro won't let go of the fake electors.
ATLANTA, GEORGIA - OCTOBER 10: Kenneth Chesebro, a lawyer who worked in connection with former U.S. President Donald Trump's 2020 re-election campaign, watches as Fulton County Chief Senior District Attorney Donald W... ATLANTA, GEORGIA - OCTOBER 10: Kenneth Chesebro, a lawyer who worked in connection with former U.S. President Donald Trump's 2020 re-election campaign, watches as Fulton County Chief Senior District Attorney Donald Wakeford speaks, as he appears before Judge Scott McAfee in a hearing related to the 2020 election interference case on October 10, 2023 in Fulton County Superior Court in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Alyssa Pointer-Pool/Getty Images) MORE LESS
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Three years on, and the defense remains the same: whatever happened in 2020 was justified, and the rules then still apply now.

Former Donald Trump attorney Ken Chesebro is the latest to lob a version of this argument forward, as he seeks to have a judge toss the election conspiracy indictment against him, brought by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

Chesebro’s attorneys argued at a Tuesday hearing that Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee should drop the case because, under Chesebro’s reading of federal election law, he could not be charged at the state level.

Per Chesebro’s reading of the Electoral Count Act, the 19th century statute amended last year, any action undertaken after the “safe harbor” deadline should be governed by federal, and not state law. Therefore, attorneys for Chesebro argued, Willis did not have the power to charge him.

Chesebro’s attorneys also rehashed arguments which Trump and his attorneys first lodged in 2020 and have reupped at various points since then: that the 1960 Hawaii dispute was relevant, that it’s fine for states to send competing slates of electors for Congress to decide, and that the 2020 election had an actual conflict in how it was conducted, which demanded resolution.

“You and I, your honor, could go to the Capitol, follow the rules as to how you’re supposed to vote, and submit our own slate of electors under Georgia state law,” Manny Arora, an attorney for Chesebro, said at one point during Tuesday’s hearing.

Arora said separately that Georgia prosecutors were “usurping Congress’ authority” to decide who the legitimate electors were.

Arora illustrated his argument with a powerpoint presentation which outlined his points: arguing that if the judge agreed that creating fake — “alternate” — elector slates was a crime, then that would violate the so-called purpose of federal election law. In Chesebro’s view, which was adopted by the Trump campaign during its coup attempt, that allows for dueling elector slates to appear and be decided on by Congress.

“I’m sorry that we haven’t had [Electoral Count Act] challenges in the 140 years it has gone on,” Arora remarked Tuesday.

At another point, Arora pointed to amendments passed into law last year as proof that Chesebro’s interpretation, at the time of the actions alleged in the indictment, was correct. The changes made in the passage of the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022 clarified that Pence did not have the authority to toss electoral vote slates. Chesebro’s attorneys did what some worried would happen when the changes were passed, and used the amendments to suggest that the law itself was vague.

The fake electors were the keystone in Trump’s effort to reverse his loss in the 2020 election. Assembled in seven states which Biden won, the fake electors were meant to replace the legitimate Biden electors by their state legislatures, the courts, or members of Congress: whoever Trump and his acolytes managed to pressure.

Chesebro, along with John Eastman, masterminded the legal theory behind the electors, while Chesebro himself allegedly coordinated the creation of the fake elector slates. Chesebro told TPM last year in an exclusive interview that his actions were “what lawyers do.”

Throughout the hearing, Judge McAfee seemed disinclined to go along with the request, saying that it was too early in the process to decide on the matter.

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  1. All I see is a wall of money.

  2. Avatar for jw1 jw1 says:

    My stock boilerplate response–

    Fuck that guy.™

    – with which, I reserve the right to whip out, at any time, I feel a need for a cathartic, but mindless reply.
    Which may be quite often this next year or so. Anything else is likely a waste of keystrokes. So get used to it.

    Thanks, The Management

  3. Avatar for noonm noonm says:

    “Throw sh*t at the wall and see what sticks” Chesebro-edition.

    Let’s hope the Judge slaps this down like pretty much all the others have been.

  4. When you can’t dazzle them with brains, baffle them with bullshit.

  5. “that it’s fine for states to send competing slates of electors for Congress to decide.”

    IANAL, and I know probably as much as the average high-info political news consumer about election law (not much). But–I think Ken C is in trouble because his work on the fake electors was part of a criminal conspiracy. And part of that conspiracy was precisely not to “let Congress decide” but to have VP Mike Pence illegally and unconstitutionally pronounce that Congress should decide. And this conspiracy involved Ken C in making illegal forgeries and false statements.

    I don’t know–please correct me, TPM lawyers–but I suspect you can knock yourself out trying to round up alternate electors. What you can’t do is conspire to commit forgery and make false statements in doing so. What you really can’t do is conspire to overthrow the government in doing so. Seems like Ken is serving up weak sauce. If this is all he’s got, I’m thinking, he’s got nothin’.

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