Govt’s ‘Landlord’ Refuses To Answer Q’s On WH Meddling In FBI Building’s Plans

UNITED STATES - MARCH 13: GSA Administrator Emily Murphy arrives to tesitfy during the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Financial Services and General Government Subcommittee hearing on "GSA (General Services Adm... UNITED STATES - MARCH 13: GSA Administrator Emily Murphy arrives to tesitfy during the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Financial Services and General Government Subcommittee hearing on "GSA (General Services Administration) Oversight Hearing" on Wednesday, March 13, 2019. (Photo By Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call) MORE LESS
Start your day with TPM.
Sign up for the Morning Memo newsletter

In an congressional oversight hearing focused on the FBI’s years-long effort to build a new headquarters, the government’s top landlord repeatedly refused to discuss discussions she’d had with President Donald Trump about the project — an important point, given Trump’s obsession with the FBI’s building plans.

Before taking office, Trump expressed interest in purchasing the FBI’s current address, a few feet from his Washington, D.C. hotel. After he was elected (and after he became ineligible to bid on the property) Trump began insisting that the FBI’s current address was too valuable to give up for a new building in the suburbs, which was the agency’s plan for years before he took office. A year ago, the General Services Administration and FBI changed course and submitted a plan to Congress to rebuild at the bureau’s current address.

The relocation question has been the subject of an inspector general’s probe and two letters from Democrats demanding answers — the latter considerably angrier than the former.

Instead of answering several questions about Trump’s potential involvement in the behind-the-scenes planning, GSA Administrator Emily Murphy (pictured above) repeated a similar phrase multiple times during Wednesday’s hour-and-a-half hearing.

“It’s longstanding executive branch practice and privilege not to discuss conversations between the President, his advisers, heads of agencies and senior White House advisers,” she said. “So I’m going to respectfully decline to answer that question.”

Murphy wasn’t asserting executive privilege during her testimony before the House Appropriations Committee’s Subcommittee on Financial Services and General Government, she clarified. That option belongs to Trump, not her.

“So you’re asserting a privilege that the President hasn’t?” Chairman Mike Quigley (D-IL) asked.

“I am not asserting a privilege, I’m declining to answer,” Murphy replied.

In that instance, Murphy was refusing to answer Quigley’s question about whether she was aware of the White House communicating its preference about the FBI’s building plans to FBI Director Christopher Wray.

She refused to answer several more times during the hearing, including in response to Rep. Charlie Crist’s (D-FL) question about whether, “at any time,” she had “any knowledge of the President’s preference of which of the two plans he preferred?”

She refused to answer again when she was asked if the White House counsel’s office had spoken to her before Wednesday’s hearing about her testimony.

“It’s my understanding that no matter the party, no matter the administration, that witnesses don’t discuss what they did to prepare, and that heads of agencies don’t discuss the details of conversations they had with the President or his senior advisers,” Murphy said.

The GSA inspector general’s report, released in August last year, revealed that the White House counsel’s office had instructed several officials at the GSA not to discuss Murphy’s meeting with Trump and others at the White House the previous January.

The same report also accused Murphy of giving “incomplete” and “misleading” testimony when she made no mention of her White House meeting in a hearing three months after it took place.

Quigley asked at the time whether “to your knowledge” the President “was involved” in the discussions about the FBI’s building plans.

Murphy made no mention of her White House meeting, instead saying the direction GSA received came from the FBI.

In response to the inspector general’s report, a former GSA inspector general hired by Murphy’s private attorney asserted that she answered “truthfully,” and that it wasn’t her “job to answer follow-ups to questions that the witness wasn’t asked.”

Murphy stated Wednesday: “To my knowledge then, and now, the President had no involvement in the FBI’s location decision.”

She further asserted that she wasn’t aware of any influence on the FBI building process rooted in a desire to benefit Trump’s bottom line.

“None whatsoever,” she said.

Correction: This post initially identified Rep. Charlie Crist as a Republican. He changed affiliations to the Democratic Party in 2012

Latest News
66
Show Comments

Notable Replies

  1. It’s subpoena time!

  2. Fuck that, it’s way past time for a second civil war!

    ETA: No, I’m not fucking kidding. We’re headed there anyway, so we might as well get it over with. Anyone who thinks Trump and McConnell are the worst that can happen and will be happening as these people rage against the dying of the white is a complete fucking fool.

  3. She further asserted that she wasn’t aware of any influence on the FBI building process rooted in a desire to benefit Trump’s bottom line.

    “None whatsoever,” she said.

  4. Avatar for korvu korvu says:

    add her name to Post Trump Indictments dot com for follow up.

Continue the discussion at forums.talkingpointsmemo.com

60 more replies

Participants

Avatar for system1 Avatar for paulw Avatar for srfromgr Avatar for old_curmudgeon Avatar for clunkertruck Avatar for cervantes Avatar for brutus1910 Avatar for steviedee111 Avatar for inversion Avatar for sniffit Avatar for tacoma Avatar for johnrm Avatar for joelopines Avatar for emjayay Avatar for lastroth Avatar for mike_in_houston Avatar for clauscph Avatar for btinkler Avatar for bodie1 Avatar for rickjones Avatar for euglena4056 Avatar for redhand Avatar for drtv Avatar for caffeinated

Continue Discussion
Masthead Masthead
Founder & Editor-in-Chief:
Executive Editor:
Managing Editor:
Deputy Editor:
Editor at Large:
General Counsel:
Publisher:
Head of Product:
Director of Technology:
Associate Publisher:
Front End Developer:
Senior Designer: