Cruz And Rubio Tag Team Rand Paul At Koch Bros Summit

FILE - In this Jan. 16, 2015 file photo, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.speaks with people at a restaurant in Las Vegas. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio seems to be moving toward a bid for the Republicans' presidential nomination, an... FILE - In this Jan. 16, 2015 file photo, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.speaks with people at a restaurant in Las Vegas. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio seems to be moving toward a bid for the Republicans' presidential nomination, and late Sunday he joins Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky for an audience with the conservative billionaire Koch brothers. (AP Photo/John Locher, File) MORE LESS
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Rand Paul is demonstrating how he could disrupt the Republican presidential field if he seeks the nomination, sparring with potential rivals over Iran, Cuba and the Pentagon’s budget in a face-to-face forum that offered an early preview of the feisty policy debate to come.

The Kentucky Republican joined fellow first-term senators Ted Cruz of Texas and Marco Rubio of Florida on stage Sunday evening in California for a summit organized by Freedom Partners. That group is the central hub of the powerful network of organizations backed by conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch.

Each likely candidate has broad backing from tea party activists, who helped push them to victory over establishment-minded rivals in their most recent races. But a split is already starting to emerge even before they formally decide if they will run, and Paul seems to be an eager wedge.

“I’m a big fan of trying the diplomatic option as long as we can,” Paul said of talks with Iran over its nuclear plan. “I do think diplomacy is better than war.”

Lawmakers from both parties are pushing for a new round of sanctions against Iran. The White House and foreign leaders have urged Congress against it, for fear it would agitate Iran and prompt them to end negotiations over its nuclear abilities.

Cruz and Rubio were sharply critical of negotiations, backed by President Barack Obama.

“This is the worst negotiation in the history of mankind,” Cruz said, predicting an Iranian nuclear strike in “Tel Aviv, New York or Los Angeles.”

Added Rubio: “At this pace, in five years, we’re going to build the bomb for them.”

Paul urged his colleagues to have patience. “Are you ready to send ground troops into Iran?”

Cruz was having none of it. “The problem with Iran is Khomeini and the mullahs are radical Islamic nutcases,” he said.

It was as intense a disagreement on Cuba. Obama late last year sent shockwaves across the hemisphere by restoring diplomatic ties with Cuba after more than a half-century of estrangement and embargoes. Politicians from corner of both parties were critical.

Cruz and Rubio, both Cuban-Americans fiercely opposed to the Castro regime’s hold on power there, have been outspoken critics of Obama’s move, while Paul notes the embargo has not ousted Fidel or Raul Castro.

“I’m kind of surrounded on this one,” Paul said, sitting between Cruz to his right and Rubio to his left.

“The Castros are brutal dictators,” Cruz said. He also said the potential for U.S. dollars flooding into Cuba would only keep the Castro regime in power longer.

“Maybe. Maybe not,” Paul said.

Even on military spending, which is typically sacrosanct among Republicans, Paul needled his colleagues. Paul said national security is the most important spending in the budget, but “I’m not for a blank check.”

Rubio said the United States’ economic challenges did not stem from defense spending and smaller budgets would only threaten its future economic growth.

“Try economic growth while you’re under attack,” Rubio said.

The trio of lawmakers is laying the groundwork for presidential bids that are expected to launch in the coming months and will be competing for many of the same donors, including those the Kochs count as allies and who joined the weekend summit in Palm Springs, California.

The Koch network, which includes Americans for Prosperity, Generation Opportunity and the Libre Initiative, is unlikely to formally back one of the presidential hopefuls but its deep pockets can certainly focus the terms of the debate.

Sunday’s event was closed to journalists but Freedom Partners broadcast the panel discussion with the three senators online for reporters, an unusual step toward transparency at the historically private gatherings. An earlier session with Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, another likely contender, was not available online.

“There are a bunch of Democrats who have taken as their talking point that the Koch brothers are the nexus of all evil in the world,” Cruz said, acknowledging the event’s organizers.

“I admire Charles and David Koch,” Cruz continued. “They are businessmen who have created hundreds of thousands of jobs and they have stood up for free market principles.”

The evening session’s online broadcast did not include images of the audience so it was impossible to know if either Charles or David Koch were in the audience.

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  1. Avatar for zoran zoran says:

    Wow–Koch hustling at its most basic.

  2. That headline is dirty. He-he.

  3. Avatar for denisj denisj says:

    Talk about a nutcase - as the old saying goes, it takes one to know one Senator Cruz.

  4. This is why Bush and Romney stayed away. Cruz and Rubio, neither of which has a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the nomination, expose Paul’s lapses in GOP dogma, while pulling his strings and making him dance.

    First it underscores what a second tier event this was, and as part of the bigger GOP move to drive down the crazy in their nomination process, it allows the clowns and jokers to take each other out. And I have very little doubt that everyone is gunning to be the one to take Paul out of the race.

    While Jeb and Mitt keep their powder relatively dry…

  5. Question: Do Cruz and Rubio think the whole country are TBaggers?

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