During a Thursday morning panel discussion on CNN, contributor S.E. Cupp shut down a Donald Trump adviser for claiming that the campaign is reaching out to women voters, telling the adviser that she is living in a “fantasy land.”
While discussing the recent Trump campaign staff shake-up, Cupp noted that the campaign still doesn’t seem to be reaching out to women and minorities.
“There’s no outreach anymore. It’s as if he’s given up on them. And I just wonder if there are enough old male guy— old white guys in the country to elect him. I don’t think so,” she said.
Host Carol Costello then asked Trump adviser Tana Goertz, a one-time finalist on Trump’s reality TV show The Apprentice, how Trump’s new campaign leaders will reach out to new demographics.
In response, Goertz said that the campaign is “reaching women’s groups and different various outreach groups.”
Cupp then jumped in to ask, “How?”
As Goertz began to respond, Cupp added, “No you’re not, actually you’re not.”
“There’s math. There’s polls,” Cupp added.
“Oh, really? Oh, I’m sorry, I’m on the campaign and I’m actually part of the women’s initiative, so that’s weird,” Goertz responded before Cupp jumped in again.
“There’s polls that show you’re not reaching women. That’s just math. I’m sorry to break it to you,” Cupp said.
As Cupp and Goertz continued to talk over each other, Costello jumped in to ask Goertz how Trump plans on reaching out to women.
“Thank you for asking, Carol,” Goertz responded. “The answer to that is he is having people like myself, his lovely daughter Ivanka, other strong Republican leaders, hold leadership conferences where we are getting out in front of large audiences of women who would like to hear why women like myself, why women like Ivanka, why other wonderful strong independent women who are making their own living, who are successful, who are highly educated, are voting and respect and are working for Donald Trump.”
Cupp jumped in one last time, telling Goertz, “That’s what we call anecdotal evidence. That’s anecdotal and of course, there’s some women supporting Donald Trump, that’s a fact. But to ignore the fact that 70 percent of women do not like Donald Trump and that he has a huge gap between him and Hillary Clinton among women voters is a fantasy land.”
Watch the exchange via CNN: