Why This Conservative Lawyer Thinks He Can Still Cripple Obamacare

Barack Obama Organizing for Action 'Obamacare Summit', Washington DC, America - 04 Nov 2013 (Rex Features via AP Images)
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The top lawyer arguing a case to overturn Obamacare subsidies believes he can succeed at crippling the law even if it’s upheld in every district and appellate court.

A three-judge panel on the D.C. Circuit invalidated the federal exchange subsidies in June. The full court subsequently vacated the ruling and announced it’ll re-hear the case, called Halbig v. Burwell.

The conservative opponents have a tough battle because the en banc ruling will feature 8 Democratic-appointed judges — four of whom were appointed by President Obama himself — and 5 Republican-appointed judges.

Michael Carvin, the lawyer for the plaintiffs, has appealed directly to the Supreme Court, where the case will be heard if four justices vote to take it. He expects the justices to view an expected D.C. Circuit ruling in favor of the law as corrupted by politics and agree to review it.

“I don’t know that four justices, who are needed to [take the case] here, are going to give much of a damn about what a bunch of Obama appointees on the D.C. Circuit think,” Carvin told TPM on Thursday, after a Heritage Foundation event previewing the upcoming Supreme Court term. “This is a hugely important case.”

Two federal trial court judges and one appeals court have upheld the law against the challenge, which alleges that the Obamacare statute prohibits subsidies to be provided on the federal exchange for residents of 36 states. The Supreme Court is generally less likely to take cases if the lower courts are in agreement. Proponents of Obamacare view the Halbig lawsuit as a partisan quest aimed at gutting the law.

“There’s plenty of cases where [Supreme Court justices] take important issues even if there’s no circuit split — like the gay marriage cases, they might take those,” Carvin said. “If you’ve gone through that process and you don’t really care what [the Obama-appointed judges] think — because I’m not going to lose any Republican-appointed judges’ votes on the en banc — then I think the calculus would be, well let’s take it now and get it resolved.”

And if the case reaches the Supreme Court, Carvin expects all five Republican-appointed justices to rule that the federal exchange subsidies are invalid.

Asked if he believes he’d lose the votes of any of the five conservative justices, he smiled and said, “Oh, I don’t think so.”

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  1. He clearly thinks judges should follow their beliefs, rather than the law. What could possibly go wrong?

  2. ODS is strong in this one. I couldn’t help noticing the use of “Obama appointees” or “Obama judges” throughout his spiel. It seems his entire argument is vacate the District Court ruling because it was made by Obama appointees not real judges.

  3. Didnt scotus and the plaintiff lawyer’s friend of court filing in NFIB v Sebelius already accept the view that all exchanges get subsidies?

  4. Why not cripple ebola, climate change, pollution, tax inversion/evasion, terrorists, poor education… etc?
    Why cripple something intended to help people?

  5. Shorter Carvin : If I can only get it to the 5 Republican appointed hacks on the Supreme Court, they will do my bidding. Whatever Democratic appointed judges ruled is irrelevant. This is what the Courts have become…totally partisan operations. This country has become a joke.

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