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It Won’t Age Well

Having watched Mark Zuckerberg’s weeklong roll out of the new MAGAfied Facebook/Meta, let me put my chips down on none of this aging well for his company. It’s simply too clumsy and over-the-top and it places too many bets on a lame duck President who will be governing a still sharply divided country. As much as anything else these moves highlight Meta’s tech and global regulatory regulatory vulnerabilities not so much vis a vis the US government or even the European Union as other tech giants. These things take a long time to play out. The US government and the executive branch that Trump will soon control can absolutely do a lot of favors for Zuckerberg and Meta. And Zuckerberg has been pretty transparent about what he hopes those favors are. But overall it just tells a very weak and defensive brand story as you see this playing out over the years to come.

Down the Rabbit Hole of the Greenland Tech-Bro State

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Down the Rabbit Hole of the Greenland Tech-Bro State

If you delve into Greenland discourse you quickly find all sorts of degenerate weirdness. And let me be crystal clear in the second sentence of this post that by “Greenland discourse” I mean more or less nothing about the actual physical place or its people: I mean the imaginings of various North American tech weirdos and Trumpers. I also mean very little about the generally silly conversation about whether the United States will annex Greenland. I stand by everything I wrote about that yesterday. But whenever you discuss Donald Trump’s Greenland jones, or, more specifically, whenever you dismiss it, you’ll hear from a lot of people about the various Silicon Valley fantasies about Greenland and why this is really what Trump’s talking about. I don’t think those are really what Trump’s yakking is about at all. But they’re at least part of the milieu Trump’s now part of. So it’s in the mix, adjacent, part of the idea world that gets these guys excited. Or, stated differently, what gets Trump’s new money men ginned up and thus keeps him talking.

For this little adventure we can start with this TechCrunch article entitled: ‘I went to Greenland to try to buy it’: Meet the founder who wants to recreate Mars on Earth. You have to go deep into the tech weirdo rabbit hole to make sense of recreating Mars on Earth (it has to do with Elon Musk, basically). Because Mars is actually a super-frigid, waterless barren wasteland. I’m into space travel as much as the next guy. But you wouldn’t want to live there or recreate it anywhere. You also shouldn’t try to buy Greenland. But that’s another story.

Listen To This: Goodbye, Jimmy

A new episode of The Josh Marshall Podcast is live! This week, Kate and Josh discuss Trump’s attempts to evade the final dregs of legal accountability, congressional Republican dysfunction and the legacy of Jimmy Carter.


You can listen to the new episode of The Josh Marshall Podcast here.


Greenland, Panama, Canada … None of that is Going to Happen

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Greenland, Panama, Canada … None of that is Going to Happen

Some of you will disagree with this. And perhaps the future will vindicate your criticism. But I don’t think we should be distracted by Trump’s nonsense about Greenland, the Panama Canal or bum rushing Canada into becoming a U.S. state. We’re all under the grip of that line: “When someone tells you who they are, believe them.” But that doesn’t always work with con men and pathological liars. None of this stuff is going to happen. At a minimum, we shouldn’t get pulled into these outrage cycles or pretending any of this is a thing until you see the U.S. deploying military assets in Central America or … Maine? (I’m not sure where your deploy military assets to menace Greenland but wherever that is, wait for that.)

I saw this CNN article about how Danish officials “fear Trump is much more serious about acquiring Greenland than in first term.” And I get it: the U.S. is a nuclear power and Trump’s a freak. I don’t begrudge them being concerned. But I restate the point. None of this stuff is going to happen. What’s possible is a bunch of bullshit followed by some negotiations in which the Kingdom of Denmark agrees to some minor changes to the existing agreement which allows the U.S. military pretty vast liberties to defend and operate in Greenland. (That’s the NAFTA model: bullshit followed by some discussions and then huge fanfare for marginal changes to existing agreements.) It is the same story that we’ve talked about in other contexts: the constant stream of threats and maybes, all of which create what in this case may not be a penumbra of fear so much as a penumbra of reaction. Absurd tempests in teapots, the effect of which is to have everyone else in a pattern of reaction. He acts — or really doesn’t act, he jabbers — and everyone else reacts. And spin maybe 12 of those things at any one time. And that’s life under Trump.

Come Meet Us in DC!

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INSIDE …

  • Judge Juan Merchan observed during sentencing Friday that Donald Trump’s New York hush money trial “was no more special, unique, or extraordinary than any of the other 32 criminal trials that took place in this courthouse at the same time.” Josh Kovensky writes on his experience covering it.
  • Hunter Walker looks ahead to Pete Hegseth’s confirmation hearing and whether he can still be confirmed despite his flaming pile of scandals.
  • Kate Riga reports on Friday’s Supreme Court oral arguments on a law involving TikTok’s future operations in the U.S. and the way in which the arguments laid bare a fracture in the Republican coalition under Donald Trump.
  • Khaya Himmelman looks at the legal roadmap ahead after the North Carolina Supreme Court blocked the certification of an election victory by the Democratic incumbent justice on that very court.
  • Emine Yücel weighs in on Tom Homan’s rhetorical gymnastics as he outlines the Trump administration’s at-the-moment incoherent plan to deport undocumented immigrants and supposed criminals.

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Kate and Josh discuss Trump’s attempts to evade the final dregs of legal accountability, congressional Republican dysfunction and the legacy of Jimmy Carter.

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