Weekend Shutdown Talks Are Being Led By Pence, Will Go Into A Second Day

White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner, left, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, and Vice President Mike Pence, talk as they walk down the steps of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building on the White House complex, Saturday, Jan. 5, 2019, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner, left, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, and Vice President Mike Pence, talk as they walk down the steps of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building on the White H... White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner, left, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, and Vice President Mike Pence, talk as they walk down the steps of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building on the White House complex, Saturday, Jan. 5, 2019, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon) MORE LESS

WASHINGTON (AP) — White House officials and congressional aides emerged from talks aimed at ending a partial government shutdown without a breakthrough Saturday, though they planned to return to the table the following day.

President Donald Trump acknowledged nothing had budged the impasse over his demands for $5.6 billion to fund a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border, tweeting: “Not much headway made today.”

Both sides pointed fingers after the more than two-hour session led by Vice President Mike Pence. Acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, in an interview on CNN, accused Democrats of being there to “stall.” Democrats familiar with the meeting said the administration did not move on funding demands for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and would not entertain their request to re-open government while border security talks continue.

The White House said funding was not discussed in-depth Saturday, but the administration was clear they needed funding for a wall and that they wanted to resolve the shutdown all at once.

The official also said the meeting included a briefing on border security by Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen. Both sides said Democrats sought written details from the Department of Homeland Security on their budget needs, which the White House said it would provide.

The two sides plan to meet again Sunday.

Trump, who did not attend the discussions, spent the morning tweeting about border security.

Showing little empathy for the hundreds of thousands of federal workers furloughed or working without pay, Trump declared — without citing evidence — that most are Democrats. He also asserted: “I want to stop the Shutdown as soon as we are in agreement on Strong Border Security! I am in the White House ready to go, where are the Dems?”

One Democrat, Maryland Sen. Chris Van Hollen, said in his party’s weekly radio address that the shutdown “is part of a larger pattern of a president who puts his personal whims and his effort to score political points before the needs of the American people. … He is pointing fingers at everyone but himself.”

Trump and Democratic leaders met for roughly two hours Friday, but gave differing accounts of the session. Democrats reported little progress; Trump framed the weekend talks as a key step forward.

As the shutdown drags on, some Republicans are growing increasingly nervous. Some GOP senators up for re-election in 2020, including Cory Gardner of Colorado and Susan Collins of Maine, have voiced discomfort with the shutdown in recent days. Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina penned an op-ed for The Hill, arguing that Congress should end the shutdown and make a deal on border security and immigration reforms.

In calling on Trump to reopen government while negotiations on border security continue, Democrats have emphasized families unable to pay bills due to absent paychecks. But Trump has repeatedly said he will not budge without money for the wall.

Trump asserted on Friday that he could declare a national emergency to build the wall without congressional approval, but would first try a “negotiated process.” Trump previously described the situation at the border as a “national emergency” before he sent active-duty troops; critics described that as a pre-election stunt.

Trump said the federal workers who are furloughed or working without pay would want him to “keep going” and fight for border security. Asked how people would manage without a financial safety net, he said: “The safety net is going to be having a strong border because we’re going to be safe.”

Democrats expressed skepticism Friday that there would be a breakthrough.

“It’s very hard to see how progress will be made unless they open up the government,” said Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer of New York.

Trump confirmed to reporters that he privately told Democrats, in the Friday meeting with congressional leaders, that the shutdown could drag on for “months or even years.”

A variety of strategies are being floated inside and outside the White House. Among them is the idea of trading wall money for a deal on immigrants brought to the country as young people and now here illegally. But Trump made clear during his news conference that talk on DACA, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, would have to wait.

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  1. Show of hands. Who thinks we should take these “negotiations” seriously?

  2. Pence had best be careful. Daddy doesn’t like being upstaged.
    That said it was trump who said he wasn’t gonna move off his insistence there be a concrete and steel wall that would be transparent so that drug dealers couldn’t wing Americans with drug bundles as they sauntered by the wall. I assume somewhere in the hinterland of South Texas where there be not so very much in the way of things to saunter to or from.
    Transparent concrete is possible. I am wondering who put that thought so prominently in trump’s limited capacity for memory.

    trump also thinks the wall will be built using preformed slabs made off site. Nifty idea 'cept for the lack of roads anywhere near most of the border capable of supporting trucks carrying that much weight .

  3. “Not much headway made today.”

    Shorter Trump: It’s raining. It is impacting my Golf.

  4. from the archives: YALTA (AP) - Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin met today to discuss many aspects of ending the war with Germany and Japan. Important areas of discussion: What to do with areas of Eastern Europe if the war was won by the Allies. Stalin, whose press corps have been in close contact with AP reporters, has indicated to AP that he would like nothing better than to have Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary restored to their former borders, and that all would enjoy the bounty and prosperity that Russia was now enjoying. Yalta can be chilly this time of year. The region is know chiefly for the exports of telephones and a burgeoning oil industry.

  5. Based on Trump’s own words and his tweets, there are no actual “negotiations.” He has ruled out including DACA in the talks, has ruled out settling for less money, has ruled out money for border security that doesn’t include a wall, has ruled out alternate barriers other than his concrete/steel wall. It’s not a “negotiation” when you say, “Give me everything I want and fuck you.”

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