AP Fact Checks Claims From Fox News’ Detroit Republican Debate

Through the curtains, Republican presidential candidates, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., businessman Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Ohio Gov. John Kasich appear during a Republican presidential primary debate a... Through the curtains, Republican presidential candidates, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., businessman Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Ohio Gov. John Kasich appear during a Republican presidential primary debate at Fox Theatre, Thursday, March 3, 2016, in Detroit. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya) MORE LESS
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WASHINGTON (AP) — On taxes, trade and drug prices — along with the always tangled tale of opinion polls — viewers of the latest Republican debate didn’t get a straight story.

A look at some of the claims Thursday night and how they compare with the facts:

DONALD TRUMP: “I beat Hillary Clinton in many polls. The Pew poll just came out. I beat Hillary Clinton in a recent Fox poll, I beat Hillary Clinton in USA Today, I beat her today in a poll in Ohio. I beat— I’m the only one that beats Hillary Clinton.”

THE FACTS: Trump has bested Clinton in a few polls dating back to May, but Clinton has beat him in many more. A listing of national polls compiled by Real Clear Politics finds Trump on top five times in that period, while Clinton, the Democratic front-runner, beat him in 41 polls. There were two ties.

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TRUMP: “We are getting absolutely crushed on trade…. With China we’re going to lose $505 billion in terms of trades. You just can’t do it. Mexico, $58 billion. Japan, probably about, they don’t know it yet, but about $109 billion.”

THE FACTS: Trump is way off on the U.S. merchandise trade deficit with China. It was $365.7 billion in 2015 — indeed, a record and the largest deficit the United States had with any country.

But the U.S. deficit with all countries last year was $531.5 billion, up from $508.3 billion in 2014, close to the $505 billion deficit that Trump assigned just to one country, China. Trump did get the deficit with Mexico correct.

But not Japan. His estimate of a $109 billion trade deficit with Japan compares with the actual deficit of $68.6 billion last year.

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CRUZ on his proposal to abolish the IRS: “Now, at the end of that there will still be an office in the Treasury Department to receive the postcards but it will be dramatically simpler.”

THE FACTS: Cruz dodged the question of how the tax system will be enforced if he abolishes the IRS and has people pay taxes on simple postcard-like forms. No matter how simple taxes might become, the government still has to make sure people are paying their share, and that takes a large workforce. It’s not just a matter of receiving postcards.

Cruz’s flat tax would consolidate seven tax brackets into one at 10 percent. It’s almost certain that this level would give the wealthy huge tax breaks and cause budget deficits to soar.

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TRUMP: “Because of the fact that the pharmaceutical companies are not mandated to bid properly, they have hundreds of billions of dollars in waste.”

THE FACTS: This relates to Trump’s unachievable promise to save $300 billion by allowing Medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices. That’s impossible because the entire country — Medicare, private insurance, individuals and other government programs — spends about $300 billion on drugs ($297.7 billion in 2014).

Trump’s promise could only be fulfilled, in essence, if drugs were free.

Savings estimates from Medicare-negotiated drug prices have not been nearly as huge as Trump supposes.

A study last year by the advocacy group Public Citizen and a professor at Carleton University in Ottawa estimated that Medicare’s prescription program would save $15.2 billion to $16 billion a year if it were able to get the same discounted prices for brand name drugs that state Medicaid programs and the Veterans Health Administration receive.

That’s far from a $300 billion savings.

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MARCO RUBIO dismissed Trump’s business record, saying he “inherited over $100 million.”

THE FACTS: That’s hard to pin down. Trump’s father, Fred Trump, died in 1999, and left behind an estate publicly estimated at between $200 to $250 million. But no firm numbers are available — and the estate was to be split among Trump and two of his siblings.

If Rubio’s estimate is high, however, Trump’s insistence that he only received a “small loan” from his father is even harder to justify. Fred Trump not only gave his son an initial stake, but also guaranteed loans on the Grand Hyatt project that first made Trump’s name. Fred Trump also let his son borrow against his future inheritance — and, in 1991, one of Trump’s casinos admitted it had broken New Jersey law by accepting an illicit $3.5 million loan from Fred Trump.

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CRUZ: Obamacare is “the biggest job killer in America.”

THE FACTS: That assertion flies in the face of an unemployment rate that has fallen to 4.9 percent from 9.9 percent in March 2010, when President Barack Obama signed the health care law.

The economy has added more than 13.4 million jobs during that period.

While the health care law doesn’t seem to have had a major impact on jobs, some lesser consequences are likely. The Congressional Budget Office projected that the availability of government subsidized health insurance will prompt some people to drop out of the labor market, since they can get coverage without holding down a job.

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Associated Press writers Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar and Jeff Horwitz contributed to this report.

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  1. You’d think the press would learn by now that basically everything Trump, Cruz, and Rubio says is complete bullshit

  2. CRUZ on his proposal to abolish the IRS: “Now, at the end of that there will still be an office in the Treasury Department to receive the postcards but it will be dramatically simpler.”

    its rather strange that the party that believed in a progressive tax rate to pay for things (in this instance, a war) is now the party that’s paying to make the fat cats feel better about themselves.

  3. I already file an EZ1040. Pretty close to a postcard. It’s people with all kinds of deductions and small businesses that have to do do something more complicated. Getting rid of mortgage deductions and all the rest, great. They are regressive. Good luck with ending what are in effect subsidies to middle class home owners. All the touted by Republicans small businesses, not so simple.

    And by the way, all small businesses cheat like crazy on their federal income taxes.

  4. … sorry, i fell asleep during the second sentence… did the AP ever find that fact…?..

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