Here’s the passage in Isaac Chotiner’s New Yorker interview with Rudy Giuliani that we’ll inevitably all be talking about tomorrow (emphasis added) …
NYR:Did President Trump’s lawyers or you yourself reach out to the special counsel’s office after the story, as has just been reported?
RG:I can’t discuss that. President Trump would not have done that. If anybody would have done it, obviously it would have been his lawyers, and I really can’t discuss that. That would be confidential.
NYR: Do you—
RG:But I can tell you, from the moment I read the story, I knew the story was false.
NYR: Because?
RG: Because I have been through all the tapes, I have been through all the texts, I have been through all the e-mails, and I knew none existed. And then, basically, when the special counsel said that, just in case there are any others I might not know about, they probably went through others and found the same thing.
NYR: Wait, what tapes have you gone through?
RG: I shouldn’t have said tapes. They alleged there were texts and e-mails that corroborated that Cohen was saying the President told him to lie. There were no texts, there were no e-mails, and the President never told him to lie.
NYR: So, there were no tapes you listened to, though?
RG: No tapes. Well, I have listened to tapes, but none of them concern this.
