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Josh and Joe are joined by Tom Kludt, special correspondent at Vanity Fair and a former TPMer.
They discuss the World Cup, FIFA, corruption, doping, and more, including why Sepp Blatter, as corrupt as he was, may have been better for soccer as a sport than FIFA’s current head, Gianni Infantino. We also talk about why America may have hit its ceiling on how good it can get at soccer, and whether that will ever change.