Trump Debunks His Own Polling Conspiracy Theory Mid-Sentence

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump arrives to speak to a campaign rally, Monday, Oct. 24, 2016, in St. Augustine, Fla. (AP Photo/ Evan Vucci)
Start your day with TPM.
Sign up for the Morning Memo newsletter

In trying to sell a St. Augustine, Florida, crowd on his assertion that mainstream polls were rigged to favor his opponent, Donald Trump inadvertently blew up his own argument.

“Wikileaks also shows how John Podesta rigged the polls by oversampling Democrats, a voter suppression technique,” Trump began at a rally on Monday, referring to Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager. “And that’s happening to me all the time. When the polls are even, when they leave them alone and do them properly, I’m leading. But you see these polls where they’re polling Democrats. How’s Trump doing? Oh, he’s down. They’re polling Democrats!”

Then Trump referenced a hacked 2008 email from Democratic activist Tom Matzzie that references “oversampling,” a word which Trump supporters immediately took to mean “rigging” polls by adding disproportionate numbers of certain demographic groups.

“In an email, Podesta says that he wants oversamples for our polling in order to maximize what we get out of our media polling,” Trump said, reading the email in question from a teleprompter.

As many have noted, “oversampling” is a polling term which means polling enough members of certain political parties, genders, demographic groups, and others in order to get a statistically significant result for each group. These larger numbers are then weighted to their actual proportion in the population when the overall poll numbers are calculated.

In the hacked email, Matzzie also mentions “our poll” and “media polling”—signals that the discussion of oversampling is not about polls from media companies like the New York Times or Rasmussen, but instead about an internal poll intended to test a campaign’s new advertising material.

It wouldn’t make sense for Clinton consultants and allies to skew internal campaign polls, the accuracy of which the campaign relies on in order to make strategic decisions. But Trump didn’t seem to notice that as he read the email aloud in Florida.

Latest Livewire
99
Show Comments

Notable Replies

  1. Avatar for gateau gateau says:

    They rigged the 2008 polls against me!

  2. Logic is not one of this man’s strengths. Lying, abusing women? Check and double-check. Let’s give him a lovely parting gift on November 8th.

  3. His followers won't pause to consider that he just  explained the email that proves that the DEMS did not rig anything.   Will they or the RW media spinning DJT nonsense correct themselves?       How about the MSM who have allowed this misinterpretation to exist?
  4. In GOP Land, ‘up’ means ‘sideways’ and ‘down’ means ‘across’ … at an angle.

  5. Since this directly impacts on the media itself, it’s the media’s responsibility to call BS on this. No saying “it’s Hillary’s job, we’re just neutral arbiters!” Like it or not, they are part of the story now (and yes, they love it that they’re part of the story). They need to explain, in no uncertain terms, that Donald is full of shit here.

    As someone mentioned at another site, it’s wildly frustrating that every four years a bunch of knuckleheads walk into the room, see something they’ve never seen before and start shouting that it’s a conspiracy. And that’s assuming good faith on their part.

Continue the discussion at forums.talkingpointsmemo.com

93 more replies

Participants

Avatar for frustum Avatar for xpurg8d Avatar for silvrfox Avatar for pluckyinky Avatar for littlegirlblue Avatar for clunkertruck Avatar for leftflank Avatar for kilgoretrout Avatar for commiedearest Avatar for inlabsitrust Avatar for frankly_my_dear Avatar for daveyjones64 Avatar for gobydoc Avatar for magical_panda Avatar for quax Avatar for dickweed Avatar for brendanyc Avatar for greycardinal Avatar for darrtown Avatar for jinnj Avatar for jte Avatar for susanintheoc Avatar for suffra_jett Avatar for dannydorko

Continue Discussion
Masthead Masthead
Founder & Editor-in-Chief:
Executive Editor:
Managing Editor:
Deputy Editor:
Editor at Large:
General Counsel:
Publisher:
Head of Product:
Director of Technology:
Associate Publisher:
Front End Developer:
Senior Designer: