Tom Matzzie, liberal activist and owner of a clean energy company, found himself on an Acela train with former NSA chief Michael Hayden on Thursday and narrated his experience on Twitter.
Hayden was granting reporters off-the-record interviews, according to Matzzie.
Former NSA spy boss Michael Hayden on Acela behind me blabbing “on background as a former senior admin official” Sounds defensive.
— Tom Matzzie (@tommatzzie) October 24, 2013
Michael Hayden on Acela giving reporters disparaging quotes about admin. “Remember, just refer as former senior admin” #exNSAneedsadayjob
— Tom Matzzie (@tommatzzie) October 24, 2013
Matzzie shared a few details about what Hayden was discussing with reporters on the phone.
Hayden was bragging about rendition and black sites a minute ago.
— Tom Matzzie (@tommatzzie) October 24, 2013
On Acela: Hayden’s comments to press were clearly about NSA spying on foreign allies. #haydenacela
— Tom Matzzie (@tommatzzie) October 24, 2013
Toward the end of their train ride together, Matzzie secured a photo with Hayden.
Me and Steeler fan Michael Hayden. pic.twitter.com/vOmr6RIMPe
— Tom Matzzie (@tommatzzie) October 24, 2013
On the pic. His office called him and then he graciously offered me an interview. We talked around the 4th amendment and foreign spying.
— Tom Matzzie (@tommatzzie) October 24, 2013