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Blue Dogs Cool To Obama Jobs Vision

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"I would definitely be at odds with his comment on that -- I mean we've got to get our fiscal house in order," Shuler said. "We're at 15 percent of GDP in revenue and 24 and a half percent of expenditures. You want to take that 15 percent to 13 percent and increase spending to 27 percent.... I've ran a business, that doesn't go good on my balance sheet. I'm in the red when that happens."

"We're not here to talk about a specific piece of legislation," retiring Rep. Mike Ross (D-AR) told reporters. "That is a small part of what we're talking about...we're here to talk about cutting $4 trillion.... In terms of jobs, I think I speak for all of us, we're for creating more jobs."

Rep. Kurt Schrader (D-OR) said Obama's actual jobs plan is much less important than the fact that he's talking about the economy.

"The President's jobs package is about instilling confidence -- to be listening to folks out there," he told reporters. "There's a mixed media message going to folks back home, they're not sure, are we paying attention to their plight. End of the day, what's in, what gets passed at the end of the day in the President's jobs package isn't as important as the fact that we're talking about, and more importantly that Boehner and Cantor are at least on the surface seem to want to do something with the President. That's the kind of confidence we want to instill in the Super Committee."

They're not as openly critical about Obama's plan as some Senate Dems. But for now they're just about as cool to the jobs bill as they are pessimistic about the Super Committee's prospects.

Said Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN), "We all need to pray for a miracle that one or more of them is willing to consider the argument on the other side and do the right thing."

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