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Obama Promises "Bare Knuckle Fight"
From a NH Town Hall today:
There is an old saying that Abraham Lincoln had about one of his opponents, he said if you don't stop lying about me, I'm going to have to start telling the truth about you."
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I LOVE IT. Keep it coming O camp, make them pay for their lies.
September 12, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is awesome, he needs to tell the truth about McCain: the lobbyists, the lying, the clueless warmongering.
September 12, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
B. Hussein Obama is an angry Black Man... does that help?
September 12, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Soon to be, President, B. Hussein Obama, to you.
September 12, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny... will never happen. Subtract 4-6% off the polls (white people will lie to be PC), Barry is in deep shit!
September 12, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Want to make a wager on that, you HACK?
September 12, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
And you are personally spreading a lot of it.
September 13, 2008 2:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
What IS that smell?
September 13, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Add 5 to 10% to the polls - most voters don't want World War III - because republican will lie and say they are voting for McCain. It will be a reverse Bradley Effect this year. You haven't spent much time examining the primary results have you?
September 13, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack is cool as a cucumber. But not mcSham!
September 12, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
McDoodle is a senile, angry white man !
September 13, 2008 2:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
All Obama has to do is release McCain voting record.That truth speaks for itself.
September 12, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
All Obama has to do is release McCain voting record.That truth speaks for itself.
September 12, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. That Barry Obama is one tough customer.
September 12, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is anyone else disappointed with Biden? I thought he'd be a terrific choice for VP because he'd be a stunning attack dog. Yet we're hearing nothing from him.
September 12, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean the MSM isn't reporting on him.
He's giving speeched, they don't cover.
His fault?
September 12, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not just the MSM, unfortunately. The blogosphere is playing right into the Republicans' hand. Talking incessantly about Sarah Palin and John McCain and completely ignoring half the Democratic ticket, while barely paying attention to the candidate.
September 13, 2008 6:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
/agree
The Obama campaign since the primaries has been a stupendous failure. The latest ad making fun of McCain for not using a computer failed to take in to account the guy can't type because the Viet Cong crushed his bones. Throw in the fact that the ad makes it seem as though they're making fun of him because he's old and you can flush Florida down the toilet.
I can't believe what I'm seeing.
September 12, 2008 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Biden's busy doing this.
September 12, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the Democratic Party wanted to win we would have nominated Hillary. Think about it! Everyone knew Hillary's background. Obama doesn't even have any friends that can speak publicly about him. Name 1! One person who Obama grew up with or worked with that will speak positively about him! There is no one! Period. The Dude has no history.
September 12, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Obama launched a commercial today mocking the fact that McCain doesn't know how to use the Internet.
Turns out he can't even use a keyboard.
He also can't comb his own hair.
He can't even tie his own shoelaces.
Apparently his hands were broken repeatedly and he has limited ability to use his fingers or something.
http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml
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This election is over.
September 12, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lalo et al Pls - that is all RNC BS. He has full use of his hands and arms. He cannot lift them over his shoulder level. Do you need to use a keyboard above shoulder level.
Here is the full thread, follow it.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11294
Even a picture of him using a Blackberry
Numerous articles about his trying to learn linked here etc....
Another piss poor use of McCain's service...did you know he was a POW? He got it in on The View today as well.
McCain is clueless and out of touch as he admits on the Forum last nite and that is the point of the ad.
BTW - the fastedt growing group od computer/web users are 65+ and they get the need to be up to date. Why doesn't McSame? Oh yeah, Cindy does that for him...too
September 12, 2008 10:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is making an argument that McCain is out of touch and old. He's using his inability to send an email as an example. The trouble is that this has already been discussed at length in 2000 and it will come back this time too, just like it did then.
But the worst thing is that Obama cannot come up with a line that doesn't seem or cannot be interpreretd as just mean-spirited. Any celebrity can send an email, but still be not ready to lead.
September 13, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great, it's over. Then you have nothing left to say. Buh-bye.
September 13, 2008 3:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why is Lalo35adm so ugly?
Because Sarah Palin is his father!
September 13, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sweet. All of Lalo's "predictions" have gone the other way, so the election must be in the bag.
September 13, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
A great comment from Balloon Juice on this:
Elroy's Lunch Says:
I’m sure he could learn to use a computer but he would only use three keys.
P, O and W…
That is "Change"
September 12, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am confident that at some point in the next 10 to 12 weeks the Obama camp will begin to attack (although in a respectful way). I am impressed by the Obama camp's inability to find an effective means of attack; it is hard to imagine any other cnadidate having the same difficulty.
September 12, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am confident that at some point in the next 10 to 12 weeks the Obama camp will begin to attack (although in a respectful way). I am impressed by the Obama camp's inability to find an effective means of attack; it is hard to imagine any other cnadidate having the same difficulty.
September 12, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I am confident that at some point in the next 10 to 12 weeks the Obama camp will begin to attack (although in a respectful way). "
How tragic that no popular votes made on December 10th actually count towards electing the president.
The election is just over 7 weeks away, dear.
September 13, 2008 1:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
no shit, sherlock. I think you are getting my point.
September 13, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
My heart just bleeds for McCain. The proverbial saint. And we know he never falsely lies and/or attacks Obama and the Dems. BUT it shows up daily on the news and talk shows...he just can't help telling the truth.
September 12, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama needs to get some of Joe's passion on the campaign trail.
He needs to be fired up and ready to go!!
Obama needs to draft a speech to fire up himself and the masses.
He needs to regain the momentum by doing what he does best.
Inspire the masses.
Get our engines running.
And refuel his own tank.
Obama has been ground down from the non-stop 18 months of campaigning.
Obama needs to write something inspirational...it will uplift him and uplift the electorate!!
September 13, 2008 1:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Time to take off the gloves.
Time to kick *ss.
These undecided folks want someone with gumption who will fight for them.
No time to be professorial; that can wait for the time in the White House.
Show them you have "ganas".
gObama!!!!
September 13, 2008 1:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love Obama.
I want to believe Obama.
But I'm tired of politicians up against republicans *saying* they're going to 'fight them bare knuckled' and 'get in their faces' or whatever the addage of the day is. I just want them to do it instead of *saying* they'll do it. They should never, *ever* have to tell us that they're going to.
Kerry kept promising to 'fight' the republicans and look at where that got him.
I'm not trying to concern troll here -- I'm not. But this reminds me of 2004 and in a worrying way -- not that Obama is Kerry in any shape. he's already proved far more adept at counterpunching than Kerry ever was -- but it's not about counterpunching, anyways. The ad that Lalo (who has never found a reason to call this campaign 'over' that he didn't like) excoriates is a good start.
September 13, 2008 5:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even the polls are now bringing McCain back down to size. Keep your eyes and ears open, dear. The public is getting wind of McCain's lies and his focus on the insignificant instead of on the economy, and Palin's interview with Gibson didn't turn out quite the way the GOP had hoped. Obama's already started his post-911 pounding, thank goodness, and the Clintons are back on the road...
Just keep sending money for more ads. It's all good.
September 13, 2008 7:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
At every turn, Obama has made smart political moves. He knows what he is doing.
It's all about timing. He has been wise to let the Palin thing play out a bit before going in for the kill. If he'd struck too soon, it would have backfired.
I get nervous when I see the polls, too, but again and again, for the last year and a half, Obama has made the right move at the right time. He has my trust.
I agree with Dana. Give money, keep the faith...we're going to win this one.
September 13, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
At every turn, Obama has made smart political moves. He knows what he is doing.
It's all about timing. He has been wise to let the Palin thing play out a bit before going in for the kill. If he'd struck too soon, it would have backfired.
I get nervous when I see the polls, too, but again and again, for the last year and a half, Obama has made the right move at the right time. He has my trust.
I agree with Dana. Give money, keep the faith...we're going to win this one.
September 13, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah yes, the old "dropping in the polls is part of the victory plan" argument.
It's the old ropadope strategy... let them pound us so that they wear themselves out with all that pounding... then we go in for the kill.
It's the old retreat until we sucker them into the kill zone strategy...
It's the old fool them into over confidence strategy...
It's the old "crisis of capitalism" dialectic... the worse things get, the closer we are to the revolution.
It's the old... oh forget it.
Look you and all the people who are claiming that Obama knows what he is doing here are deluding themselves. He is getting beat... badly... again and again. Sometimes losing isn't the path to victory... it's just plain losing.
September 13, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama promises "bare knuckle fight"; Obama promises to bring guns if they bring knives; better if he wouldn't promise if he isn't going to deliver anything. Didn't Obama promise to oppose FISA?? (For the record I caucused for Obama, have given money to his campaign, have his lawn sign in front of my house. What a schmuck I am!!!)
September 13, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
For another view (one much closer to my viewpoint), the following is from Bernhard at Moon of Alabama. Pat Lang is a very sharp military analyst>
Pat Lang analyzes the election race and concludes:
John McCain will be the 44th president of the United States. His need to feel the equal of his "fathers" will be assuaged for at least a few months. Sarah Palin is likely to succeed him as president. He is elderly, fragile, physically much abused in life, choleric, and seemingly in decline. His belligerence grows. He is under the influence of the Jacobin neocons who know no limits to the possibility of the fulfillment of their dreams. Who can say where that influence will take us?
Governor Palin is yet unreadable. [...] She has a great deal of "catching up" to do. People spend their whole lives studying the subject matter that she must master if she is not to be a menace to the world. She needs to have someone explain the consequences implict in the acronym SIOP. Perhaps she can "catch up."
I think his prediction is correct. Obama plays fair with McCain. That is nice, but will lose him the election. Why is he not really trying to win?
September 13, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Astute comment- well put...Barack knows what he is doing and letting McSame/Palin hang themselves then strike....
September 14, 2008 12:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the Obama campaign has a muzzle on Biden and on any surrogates he has at this point. I don't watch cable or network news so maybe I'm missing something, but if some Dem were to get really forceful, I believe it would be reported everywhere.
September 13, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your just angry because u found out your daddy was black, and he never accepted u. Now you see a nice black family man and it stings you. Poor baby
September 13, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your just angry because u found out your daddy was black, and he never accepted u. Now you see a nice black family man and it stings you. Poor baby
September 13, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your just angry because u found out your daddy was black, and he never accepted u. Now you see a nice black family man and it stings you. Poor baby
September 13, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your just angry because u found out your daddy was black, and he never accepted u. Now you see a nice black family man and it stings you. Poor baby
September 13, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Try not! DO!" -- Yoda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns8dq45wK7A
"He can't lie with your fist in his mouth. Attack him now!" -- Wade Boggs (lifting a Paul Begala line from Charlie Rose's show this week...)
September 13, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama was plenty tough this morning in Manchester. You probably missed it--not on CNN live or Obama site, but the Manchester TV station had a live feed. Wondered if he would be because of the hurricane, but he went at it full force. Had an exceptionally long spiel where he gets everyone really fired up and they went wild.
Went after McCain hard and forceful on everything and then some. His delivery and expression had the hard edge he displayed during his speech after the Texas primary. I think he was a little ticked that night. Maybe that is what it takes to get him going.
The Obama site has 9 minutes of the Concord event and Obama was getting pretty tough in that. Manchester was even more so.
He seems to be experimenting with a small venue early in the day that highlights one policy with a larger town hall later in the day. And this time he followed with an unlimited rally on Saturday. Needs all three.
Biden has been giving some very tough speeches to large enthusiastic crowds in Florida, Pennsylvania, etc. Will be in Michigan on Monday. Jill held a couple of events in Iowa. Biden can do one thing that Obama is not good at--Biden can schmooze and he has close interpersonal relations everywhere he goes. Hillary will be doing 2 events on Sunday in Ohio.
I have a lot of faith in the Obama campaign. He spent Friday afternoon taping ads. More goodies in store for us.
September 13, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama was plenty tough this morning in Manchester. You probably missed it--not on CNN live or Obama site, but the Manchester TV station had a live feed. Wondered if he would be because of the hurricane, but he went at it full force. Had an exceptionally long spiel where he gets everyone really fired up and they went wild.
Went after McCain hard and forceful on everything and then some. His delivery and expression had the hard edge he displayed during his speech after the Texas primary. I think he was a little ticked that night. Maybe that is what it takes to get him going.
The Obama site has 9 minutes of the Concord event and Obama was getting pretty tough in that. Manchester was even more so.
He seems to be experimenting with a small venue early in the day that highlights one policy with a larger town hall later in the day. And this time he followed with an unlimited rally on Saturday. Needs all three.
Biden has been giving some very tough speeches to large enthusiastic crowds in Florida, Pennsylvania, etc. Will be in Michigan on Monday. Jill held a couple of events in Iowa. Biden can do one thing that Obama is not good at--Biden can schmooze and he has close interpersonal relations everywhere he goes. Hillary will be doing 2 events on Sunday in Ohio.
I have a lot of faith in the Obama campaign. He spent Friday afternoon taping ads. More goodies in store for us.
September 13, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Axis of Evil
Rove - McCain - Dobson
In my business if I see a christian fish on their car or person, I chuckle and then raise the price on them. Yes I am a wealthy Stone Liberal, yet on the outside I look like any con christian. Its a ploy I love. Thanks conserves you fill my coffer
September 13, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Axis of Evil
Rove - McCain - Dobson
In my business if I see a christian fish on their car or person, I chuckle and then raise the price on them. Yes I am a wealthy Stone Liberal, yet on the outside I look like any con christian. Its a ploy I love. Thanks conserves you fill my coffer
September 13, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama was plenty tough this morning in Manchester. You probably missed it--not on CNN live or Obama site, but the Manchester TV station had a live feed. Wondered if he would be because of the hurricane, but he went at it full force. Had an exceptionally long spiel where he gets everyone really fired up and they went wild.
Went after McCain hard and forceful on everything and then some. His delivery and expression had the hard edge he displayed during his speech after the Texas primary. I think he was a little ticked that night. Maybe that is what it takes to get him going.
The Obama site has 9 minutes of the Concord event and Obama was getting pretty tough in that. Manchester was even more so.
He seems to be experimenting with a small venue early in the day that highlights one policy with a larger town hall later in the day. And this time he followed with an unlimited rally on Saturday. Needs all three.
Biden has been giving some very tough speeches to large enthusiastic crowds in Florida, Pennsylvania, etc. Will be in Michigan on Monday. Jill held a couple of events in Iowa. Biden can do one thing that Obama is not good at--Biden can schmooze and he has close interpersonal relations everywhere he goes. Hillary will be doing 2 events on Sunday in Ohio.
I have a lot of faith in the Obama campaign. He spent Friday afternoon taping ads. More goodies in store for us.
September 13, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd be very interested to know if he is telling us that he's taking the gloves off, or if this is a signal to the troops to start the ground assault. Check out all the talk of people starting to send their money to 527's.... it may be beyond Obama's power to keep this a clean, honest, issues-only election at this point: since his higher profile surrogates aren't dropping the "L" bomb in the media in every market (which they should have all been doing all day yesterday... I didn't hear a peep from anyone other than Ari whats-his-head), too many Americans are feeling the urgency and are attacking on their own.
It's going to the streets at this point. Forget about a new kind of politics: this is becoming a war of what the footsoldiers believe to be good and evil.
The only way to save this is for the MSM to step it up by calling McCain on his lost honor and ready embrace of lying, and for people like Olbermann, Matthews, Letterman, and Conan to look into the camera and say "I can't do this anymore; this is my show, I've got millions in the bank, and I'm willing to sacrifice my position to make sure you hear the truth: John McCain is a doddering old man, an intentional liar, a Manchurian candidate who could snap at any minute, plunging this country into a war that will reinstate the draft, kill your children, bring terror from two dozen other nations to our shores, and we will witness a horror that will make 9/11 pale in comparison."
All of these broadcast personalities know it, and I guarantee you they go home and night thinking about the consequences if they muster they courage. Yes, Olbermann and Matthews have started to pop off here and there, but I guarantee you they are holding back. Don't tell me they are preaching to the choir and it won't matter: if one or both of these guys pushes the envelopes and gets fired, it will be on every single major news outlet.
September 13, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama was plenty tough this morning in Manchester. You probably missed it--not on CNN live or Obama site, but the Manchester TV station had a live feed. Wondered if he would be because of the hurricane, but he went at it full force. Had an exceptionally long spiel where he gets everyone really fired up and they went wild.
Went after McCain hard and forceful on everything and then some. His delivery and expression had the hard edge he displayed during his speech after the Texas primary. I think he was a little ticked that night. Maybe that is what it takes to get him going.
The Obama site has 9 minutes of the Concord event and Obama was getting pretty tough in that. Manchester was even more so.
He seems to be experimenting with a small venue early in the day that highlights one policy with a larger town hall later in the day. And this time he followed with an unlimited rally on Saturday. Needs all three.
Biden has been giving some very tough speeches to large enthusiastic crowds in Florida, Pennsylvania, etc. Will be in Michigan on Monday. Jill held a couple of events in Iowa. Biden can do one thing that Obama is not good at--Biden can schmooze and he has close interpersonal relations everywhere he goes. Hillary will be doing 2 events on Sunday in Ohio.
I have a lot of faith in the Obama campaign. He spent Friday afternoon taping ads. More goodies in store for us.
September 13, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd be very interested to know if he is telling us that he's taking the gloves off, or if this is a signal to the troops to start the ground assault. Check out all the talk of people starting to send their money to 527's.... it may be beyond Obama's power to keep this a clean, honest, issues-only election at this point: since his higher profile surrogates aren't dropping the "L" bomb in the media in every market (which they should have all been doing all day yesterday... I didn't hear a peep from anyone other than Ari whats-his-head), too many Americans are feeling the urgency and are attacking on their own.
It's going to the streets at this point. Forget about a new kind of politics: this is becoming a war of what the footsoldiers believe to be good and evil.
The only way to save this is for the MSM to step it up by calling McCain on his lost honor and ready embrace of lying, and for people like Olbermann, Matthews, Letterman, and Conan to look into the camera and say "I can't do this anymore; this is my show, I've got millions in the bank, and I'm willing to sacrifice my position to make sure you hear the truth: John McCain is a doddering old man, an intentional liar, a Manchurian candidate who could snap at any minute, plunging this country into a war that will reinstate the draft, kill your children, bring terror from two dozen other nations to our shores, and we will witness a horror that will make 9/11 pale in comparison."
All of these broadcast personalities know it, and I guarantee you they go home and night thinking about the consequences if they muster they courage. Yes, Olbermann and Matthews have started to pop off here and there, but I guarantee you they are holding back. Don't tell me they are preaching to the choir and it won't matter: if one or both of these guys pushes the envelopes and gets fired, it will be on every single major news outlet.
September 13, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd be very interested to know if he is telling us that he's taking the gloves off, or if this is a signal to the troops to start the ground assault. Check out all the talk of people starting to send their money to 527's.... it may be beyond Obama's power to keep this a clean, honest, issues-only election at this point: since his higher profile surrogates aren't dropping the "L" bomb in the media in every market (which they should have all been doing all day yesterday... I didn't hear a peep from anyone other than Ari whats-his-head), too many Americans are feeling the urgency and are attacking on their own.
It's going to the streets at this point. Forget about a new kind of politics: this is becoming a war of what the footsoldiers believe to be good and evil.
The only way to save this is for the MSM to step it up by calling McCain on his lost honor and ready embrace of lying, and for people like Olbermann, Matthews, Letterman, and Conan to look into the camera and say "I can't do this anymore; this is my show, I've got millions in the bank, and I'm willing to sacrifice my position to make sure you hear the truth: John McCain is a doddering old man, an intentional liar, a Manchurian candidate who could snap at any minute, plunging this country into a war that will reinstate the draft, kill your children, bring terror from two dozen other nations to our shores, and we will witness a horror that will make 9/11 pale in comparison."
All of these broadcast personalities know it, and I guarantee you they go home and night thinking about the consequences if they muster they courage. Yes, Olbermann and Matthews have started to pop off here and there, but I guarantee you they are holding back. Don't tell me they are preaching to the choir and it won't matter: if one or both of these guys pushes the envelopes and gets fired, it will be on every single major news outlet.
September 13, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd be very interested to know if he is telling us that he's taking the gloves off, or if this is a signal to the troops to start the ground assault. Check out all the talk of people starting to send their money to 527's.... it may be beyond Obama's power to keep this a clean, honest, issues-only election at this point: since his higher profile surrogates aren't dropping the "L" bomb in the media in every market (which they should have all been doing all day yesterday... I didn't hear a peep from anyone other than Ari whats-his-head), too many Americans are feeling the urgency and are attacking on their own.
It's going to the streets at this point. Forget about a new kind of politics: this is becoming a war of what the footsoldiers believe to be good and evil.
The only way to save this is for the MSM to step it up by calling McCain on his lost honor and ready embrace of lying, and for people like Olbermann, Matthews, Letterman, and Conan to look into the camera and say "I can't do this anymore; this is my show, I've got millions in the bank, and I'm willing to sacrifice my position to make sure you hear the truth: John McCain is a doddering old man, an intentional liar, a Manchurian candidate who could snap at any minute, plunging this country into a war that will reinstate the draft, kill your children, bring terror from two dozen other nations to our shores, and we will witness a horror that will make 9/11 pale in comparison."
All of these broadcast personalities know it, and I guarantee you they go home and night thinking about the consequences if they muster they courage. Yes, Olbermann and Matthews have started to pop off here and there, but I guarantee you they are holding back. Don't tell me they are preaching to the choir and it won't matter: if one or both of these guys pushes the envelopes and gets fired, it will be on every single major news outlet.
September 13, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
server errors galore
September 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
server errors indeed... sorry about my 19 identical posts
September 13, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink