It's like trying to teach a turtle to run. It's like trying to train the blind to see.
TPM Cafe has become a place where people try to talk sense to raging Clintonistas while said Clintonistas blow acrid smoke, call it fact, and challenge sensible people to disprove the smoke.
Larry foams at the mouth and is defended by Hillary's minions as "civil." Patriots assert that they'll never vote for The Monster and are reviled as "goddamn selfish idiots." The Clinton campaign employs the Rovian tactic of accusing the opponent of it's own sins, and apologists tell us we must vote for Candidate Hillary to avoid the return of the Rovians.
Without regard to the virtues of Barack Obama, Sen. Clinton, her campaign, and her followers exhibit all the symptoms that they claim afflict the Obama camp -- in fact, symptoms that could easily be ascribed to a skinhead convention -- anger, irrationality, and blind unthinking loyalty to the point of cultism.
Add to this the fact that Sen. Clinton's positions most resemble those of Joe Lieberman at them moment, but may easily change with a subtle shift in Gallup's latest release.
Then there's the topper: Replies to screed such as this one are likely to elicit the response, "Well, Obama is worse." And when one points out that that is no reason to vote for The Monster, they come back with, "Well, it's either her or McCain. You're stuck with our Monster." Then, when confronted with the fact that "none of the above" is the only rational choice, they call us traitors.
It's the same bullshit, round in circles, sense answered with nonsense, fact illiciting fraud, pearls before swine.
I've had enough. I do this for fun, not aggravation. Maybe I'll check back in after the November election.





Its too bad you are leaving the process, because folks like me are just getting started.
I haven't been as participatory in politics this past years as I was during the run-up to the Iraq War or during the 2004 and 2006 elections because it until recently, things were on cruise control: everybody hated Bush, Republicans were getting picked off by the boatload by scandal and impropriety, a Democratic president seemed like a foregone conclusion, and I was generally satisfied by the entire field of Democratic presidential candidates.
All was good in the world, and I could focus on other aspects of life -- for example: managing my finances in a recessionary economy.
But ever since Hillary has been decided to employ the Bush/Rove's Necronomiconic playbook and throw her own party under the bus for her own selfish gain, I feel re-invigorated to fight for a cause. This time for Obama. So in a way, I think I should be thankful for Hillary for getting me fired up about politics again.
So you leave at what some would see as a crossroads of a terribly important campaign. You might not like what you see when you get back in November.
March 8, 2008 9:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Kinkistyle
You bang your head against a concrete wall, all you get is a headache.
Tankard is a rare fighter for civil rights and justice. He stands for everything Hillary opposes. It is rather comical that some would have Hillary nominating judges for the Supreme Court to make it liberal. In the mode of Joe Lieberman perhaps?
I will miss tankard's posts.
Best, Terry
March 8, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Back atcha.
March 8, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well the best part of this post was Kinkistyle's response. I pray there are others like this out there. How can people not see that we are careening toward the edge of a cliff? At first I said I would hold my nose and vote for Hillary to save the Supreme Court. The more time that goes by, I wonder if that's the best move. Maybe a one term McCain who is not beholden to anyone won't be so bad after all.
March 8, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
At first I said I would hold my nose and vote for Hillary to save the Supreme Court. The more time that goes by, I wonder if that's the best move. Maybe a one term McCain who is not beholden to anyone won't be so bad after all.
Exactly.
March 8, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Obama is worse.
You traitor.
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March 8, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink