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Don't miss the best piece written so far on the Marc Rich pardon. It's by Jacob Weisberg in Slate.

Are you suspicious about whether the Bush tax cut would really give the average family a $1600 tax cut a year?

Well, you've got good reason.

According to the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities "85 percent of families would either receive a nominal tax cut of less than $1,600 or receive no tax cut at all" and "the median, or typical, family without children would receive a tax reduction of $266."

Want more details? Check out the CBPP's new fact sheet on how much the average family would really get under the Bush plan.

Damn! Ain't it just like Reuters to pinch a story from Talking Points like two days after we broke it?

Damn!

Reuters!?!?! Who's Reuters!?!?

Ya know … Don't believe the hype. The more people I talk to people in the Senate the less convinced I am that the Bush tax plan is such a slam dunk. That's the conventional wisdom, of course: the Bush plan has the Big Mo. It's only a question of Bush or Bush-plus, yada, yada, yada.

This isn't to say that the Dems don't have a helluva struggle ahead of them. Or that that struggle might not end badly. But I'm increasingly getting the impression that the DC press corps has gotten way out ahead of the facts on the ground on this one. And particularly they aren't talking to a whole slew of moderate Senate Republicans who aren't at all on-board with the Bush plan.

In the last paragraph of this otherwise uneventful Newsweek article by Mike Isikoff the author starts to get at what I at least find most interesting about the Marc Rich pardon. That's the way Jack Quinn seemed to play on Clinton's experience with/paranoia/fury about federal prosecutors and what it is like to be caught in their sites.

Isikoff writes:

In their appeals to Clinton, Quinn and Denise Rich tried to win sympathy for Rich by tapping into the president's own resentment toward the zealous prosecutors who had dogged him for years. Quinn portrayed Rich as the victim of a "highly publicized and aggressive investigation." Denise Rich laid it on even thicker, saying she knew "what it feels like to see the press try and convict the accused without regard for the truth." Sources close to Clinton say these arguments hit home. "I think Clinton wanted to pardon all of them," says one lawyer of the applicants tugging on his sleeve. "He just can't stand law enforcement."
Each of the articles published on the Rich drama have either paraphrased or quoted the arguments that Quinn made to Clinton. And they are in the nature of ... this man was persecuted by an out of control federal prosecutor, who just wanted to bring down Marc Rich, who tried him in the press, etc.

In other words, this poor Marc Rich fellow was in the same kind of jam you were in, etc., cut the guy the some slack!

Now Jack Quinn was Clinton's White House Counsel until just months before the Lewinsky scandal and, if I recall rightly, extremely loyal to him and close to him during the scandal. On the one hand there's an obvious payback angle here -- Clinton felt he owed Quinn big time. But I get the sense that having weathered that storm together, Quinn had a lot of emotional pull with Clinton to equate the two cases and make Clinton feel a vicarious sympathy for the Rich.

Now there's no sense diminishing the money and influence-peddling aspect of this. Without all the money that had changed hands these folks wouldn't have been close enough to Clinton to make their case. And without his close relationship with Clinton Quinn wouldn't have had the pull with him to make the case either. But looking at it all together these look much more like necessary than sufficient conditions. The access and frienships cemented through fund-raising and the Quinn connection got Rich to the door. And Denise Rich was clearly hard for Clinton to say 'no' to. But I suspect it was this more personal equation that actually got Clinton to pull the trigger.

I've also always heard from people who know Clinton that he's just a bit of a sucker for rich people. Not so much in the craven sense of begging donations. But at some deeper level of personal insecurity or sense of being wowed by great wealth.

I don't know if I completely buy into this latter explanation. But it's likely part of the mix as well.

The preceding is a slightly-modified article pitch I wrote about ten days ago and it still pretty much captures my sense of what happened in the Rich case.

Good for John Podesta, Clinton's former Chief of Staff! Podesta went on the This Week show this morning to go head-to-head with about ten minutes of witheringly-moronic questioning from Cokie Roberts. I don't know what else to call it. Podesta seemed to become visibly impatient, even angry with Roberts' questioning. When the transcript comes out, I give some details.

Roberts also apparently has little, if any, idea what's going on in the tax cut debate. Democrats agree on an across the board cuts in marginal rates? And the only debate is about size? Really? Does she do any reporting? Or is this just what she hears at cocktail parties?

This stuff defies critical analysis. Only vituperation can really do it justice.

And we'll be saying more about Sen. Arlen Specter and his outrageous claim that former President Clinton can still be impeached even after he's left office. I know most reporters say Specter is insufferable in person. But when did he become such a Tom DeLay-clone in public life?

Okay, tonight we're reporting directly from the official Talking Points sickbed. Anyone care to join me for another poke at the egregiously regressive GWB tax cut plan? Sure ya do. So here goes.

When faced with criticisms that the bulk of their tax cut plans go to the very wealthy, Republicans are apt to argue that it could hardly be otherwise since the great proportion of taxes are paid by the wealthy. Now there are all sorts of problems with this argument (which we'll say more about later). But for the sake of discussion let's accept the argument: which would mean that high-income earners would be entitled to a percentage of the tax cut bill equal to the percentage of federal taxes which they now pay.

Well it turns out that under the GWB plan high-income earners receive twice that amount. "The top one percent of the population," says the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities in a recently released analysis, "would receive about 40 percent of the tax cuts from the proposal, which is double the share of federal taxes that they pay."

So, in other words, the Bush tax cut plan is wildly inequitable even on the largely bogus terms conservatives say we should use when judging the fairness of tax cuts. Go figure.

And now to another subject.

A couple posts back I said that Jonah Goldberg seemed like a decent enough guy when I met him in person on C-Span, despite his Clinton-hating political views - most all of which I find execrable.

Well in response to that post I got a few … well, let's just say a few not-uncritical emails from normally adoring Talking Points readers.

This got me to thinking. Before I moved to Washington it was easier for me to insult individual conservatives in print because there was little chance I'd ever run in to them. On the other hand one of the biggest problems with the "Washington establishment" or "the inside-the-beltway mentality" or whatever you want to call it is that the journalistic community here is too incestuous. People know each other and they're afraid to criticize each other. And even more insidiously they become part of the same political milieu, with a shared set of political and values assumptions, and all the rest of it. And as I've written any number of times this is one of the greatest evils of our contemporary politics and political dialog, and contributes mightily to the persistent disconnect between politicians and journalistic elites and the public at large.

At the same time, though, there is a difference between levelling personal attacks and being willing to say that 9/10ths of what Cokie Roberts, for instance, says each Sunday on the This Week show is facile, protective of her class (the DC establishment/cave dweller tribe), and moronic -- which is all true.

Anyway there are clearly pitfalls to be avoided on both sides of the equation.

But look! Enough of this rumination. Clearly there is an appetite out there among the Talking Points readership to toss some obnoxious conservative to the wolves, no? Well, hey, come on, I'm happy to oblige. From my experience of one very unpleasant personal encounter with conservative blowhard (and columnist) David Horowitz, I am happy to attest, affirm and stipulate to the fact that he is just as big a cretin in person as the one he plays on TV and in print. So there you go. More details? Stay tuned.

One of the biggest adjustments that congressional Democrats have had to make in the last month is not having the Clinton White House there to churn out economic analyses of Republican proposals … pie-charts, data-sheets, how this or that proposal affects people in your state or your district.

There are a lot of more obvious (and, yes, more important) reasons why it's nice to have one of your own in the Oval Office. But this one turns out to be really important. That's made it all the more important for Democratically-inclined think tanks and policy shops to pick up the slack. And the doing more on this count than any other at the moment is the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. CBPP is turning out to be the number-crunching arsenal of the Democratic counterattack on the Bush tax plan. If you're interested in finding out all the details about Bush's plan their site has a series of briefing papers which give all the ugly details.

Some examples:

The one percent of the population with the highest incomes would receive between 36 percent and 43 percent of the tax cut, depending on the calculation used. The bottom 80 percent of the population would receive 29 percent of the tax cut.

Approximately 24.1 million children - 33.5 percent of all children - live in families which are excluded from the tax cut entirely.

While one-third of all children would not benefit from the Bush tax plan, more than half of black and Hispanic children would not receive any assistance. An estimated 55 percent of African-American children and 56 percent of Hispanic children live in families that would receive nothing from the tax cut.

White House officials have claimed that lower-income families would receive the largest percentage tax reductions. Such claims focus only on income taxes. Low- and moderate-income families pay more in other federal taxes - principally payroll taxes - than in income taxes. It is possible to eliminate a large percentage of the small income tax liability that many moderate-income families incur and register only a small impact on the total federal taxes that such families pay.

Again. This stuff ain't for the faint of heart. But if you really want to understand the details of what's going on here by all means check out their site. Start with this overview and then go from there.

For a much more bare-bones run down of the details see this graph from the Center for Tax Justice.

And to hear some of the Democrats' counter-proposals for a progressive, across-the-board tax cut see this floor speech that Joe Lieberman gave earlier this week in the Senate.

P.S. Next up, Talking Points reveals some new info on the Democrats emerging counter-attack on the Bush tax plan.

Ahh! How cool is this? If you missed Talking Points this morning on C-Span's Washington Journal you still have a chance -- and not just in the endless reruns on C-Span today. They have it available online if you've got Real Player installed on your computer.

It's Talking Points v. National Review Online's Jonah Goldberg, a pretty fire-breathing Clinton-hater, but actually a pretty decent guy on a personal level. (Am I just saying that to be polite online -- like I often do about other people? No, in this case, believe or not, it's really true).

And does Talking Points still keep flogging smear-gate? No doubt. No doubt.

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