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More details revealed about the Fargo Forty!

Actually, one detail is that there are apparently 42 of them. But that sort of breaks my rhetorical stride so let's not dwell on that. More interesting is what unites these would-be evildoers who are banned from attending the president's Bamboozlepalooza event today in Fargo.

According to the Fargo Forum: "At least 33 of the 42 people on the list are or have been members of the Fargo-Moorhead Democracy for America Meetup Group." As the Forum describes this cell, "The group is a local progressive organization dedicated to electing fiscally responsible, socially progressive candidates in the Fargo/Moorhead area."

No word yet on whether City Commissioner Linda Coates is also a member, public or otherwise, of said "Meetup" organization.

Fargo Forty Update!

This blog reports that Fargo City Commissioner Linda Coates is currently in line to get into today's Bamboozlepalooza event with the president, notwithstanding the appearance of her name on the event blacklist. In fact, the author of the blog says he just got off the phone with her. Whether the Patriot Act will need to be invoked to deal with Commissioner Coates is anybody's guess.

But this blog will probably have the story first.

New poll out today says most Mainers believe Social Security has "major problems". But 68% want to keep it in its current form, while only 24.5% support private accounts.

No wonder Conscience Caucus member Sen. Olympia Snowe (R) wouldn't get up out of her seat.

The fearful signs of recidivist faintheartedness, from <$NoAd$> the Hartford Courant ...

[President Bush] described the perils of the current system, how it would be "exhausted and bankrupt" by 2042. From the Democratic side of the chamber came cries of "no" - unusually raucous behavior for this most traditional of forums. And when Bush urged Congress to consider changes, only two Democratic senators - Connecticut's Joe Lieberman and Nebraska's Ben Nelson - stood up and applauded.

A Faction man till the end?

Meanwhile, Rep. Rob Simmons (R) of Connecticut, stays in the Caucus but flirts with losing his Loud and Proud status: “While I am wary of dramatic changes to a program so important to our seniors, I do understand the need to provide alternative retirement opportunities to younger workers. I look forward to this debate in Congress.”

More on the Fargo blacklist (the Fargo Forty?), the list of more than forty locals, including city commissioner Linda Coates, who are banned from the location President Bush is speaking at in Fargo today.

We hear another fellow on list is none other than James Holm, the producer for Fargo-based progressive talk radio star Ed Schultz.

You'd figure he'll probably make some mention of this on the show today.

Not a fun day for Conscience Caucus member Rep. Denny Rehberg of Montana?

He's tagging along today with the president's Bamboozlepalooza Tour.

But look at this poll that just came out from the Great Falls Tribune ...

President Bush might need to use all his Texas straight talk to convince Montanans to support letting individual workers invest part of their Social Security funds in stocks and bonds.

Montanans oppose switching to personal Social Security investment accounts by a nearly 2-to-1 margin, according to a statewide opinion poll conducted for the Great Falls Tribune.

Nearly 59 percent of the 405 adults surveyed oppose the idea, while nearly 30 percent support it.


Baucus opposes the idea, citing concern about the estimated $2 trillion cost of making up for the money diverted into private accounts.

He also fears the president's plan will reduce benefits to future retirees.

Poll respodents leaned toward the senator, with 54 percent saying they are more likely to support Baucus' position on personal Social Security accounts. About 28 percent said they support the president's position. Another 18 percent supported neither position or were undecided.

Does someone need a Loud and <$NoAd$> Proud moment?

Local Democratic officials banned <$NoAd$> from events on Bamboozlepalooza Tour?

Just like old times, I guess.

From North Dakota's Fargo Forum ...

Fargo City Commissioner Linda Coates is among more than 40 area residents included on a list of people barred from attending President Bush's speech today in Fargo.

Among the 42 area people on the do-not-admit list: two high school students, a librarian, a Democratic campaign manager and several university professors.

White House spokesman Jim Morrell and Don Larson, a spokesman for the North Dakota governor's office, say they don't know anything about such a list.

"This is the first I'm hearing of it," Morrell said when contacted Wednesday.

But two sources close to Tuesday's ticket distribution confirmed the list exists and includes a handful of names of people who were not to receive tickets to today's event at North Dakota State University's Bison Sports Arena. The list was supplied to workers at the two Fargo distribution sites, along with tickets and other forms citizens were asked to fill out upon receiving them. People who handed out tickets had copies of the list at their tables to determine if anyone should be denied access, both sources said.

The list contains a wide range of people. Several wrote opinion page letters to The Forum criticizing Bush or the war in Iraq. Others wrote letters in support of gay rights or of Democratic policies.

It's subscription only. But if you register you can see the rest here.

Milbank looks for signs of Caucus membership with hand-clap-ometer ...

When Bush told the crowd that personal Social Security accounts are the best way to improve the retirement system, most Republican lawmakers leapt to their feet. But a small band of moderates -- including Sens. Olympia J. Snowe (Maine), Susan Collins (Maine), George V. Voinovich (Ohio) and Mike DeWine (Ohio) -- were slow to join the applause. As others felt the pressure to come to their feet, Snowe, who has said she would "certainly not" support Bush's proposal, remained seated without applauding. She smiled uncomfortably and re-crossed her legs.

Remember for future reference, Collins easily swayed by colleagues' hand slaps.

Sen. Baucus (D) of Montana has an OpEd in the Billings Gazette all set for the kick-off of the president's Social Security Bamboozlepalooza tour.

The night of the long gavels?

Timed as it was to get lost in the hullabaloo of the State of the Union address, the Tuesday night/Wednesday morning purge of the House Ethics Committee was still a pretty audacious move.

It's been known for some time that the now-outgoing Chairman of the House Ethics Committee, Rep. Joel Hefley (R) of Colorado was going to get canned for his various offenses related to the Ethics Committee's handling, be it ever so gentle, of Rep. Tom DeLay (R) of Texas. The only mystery was just when the ax would fall.

But in this case, Speaker Hastert seemed to be channeling Michael Corleone in one of his less appealing moments.

As we noted back on November 19th, three of the five Republican members of the House Ethics Committee turned out to be in the Shays Handful. Or putting it more prosaically, three of them voted against the DeLay Rule.

The three were Hefley, Rep. Kenny Hulshof (R) of Missouri and Rep. Steven LaTourette (R) of Ohio.

Hastert axed all three.

The two who toed the DeLay line -- Rep. Judy Biggert (R) of Illinois and Rep. Doc Hastings (R) of Washington -- stay. And Hastings becomes Chairman.

Hulshof seemed surprised by the turn of events and in his own words, "deeply disappointed."

The following comes from the St.Louis Post-Dispatch ...

“I believe the decision was a direct result of our work in the last session,” Hulshof said in an interview, “particularly my chairing the investigative subcommittee” that examined ethics charges against DeLay, R-Texas, in the 108th Congress.

Hulshof said his opposition to recent proposed changes of the GOP’s ethics standards may also played a role in his removal.

What's most telling, though, in this whole grisly affair is less the complaints of the purged than the comments of Hastert spokesman John Freehery who apparently couldn't be troubled to keep a straight face when denying that the purge was a purge.

This from the Rocky Mountain News about Hefley ...

John Feehery, a spokesman for Hastert, denied the charge, saying Hefley did a "great job" as chairman but had served the mandatory number of terms allowed without a waiver of House rules.

"He wasn't ousted. We have said all along we would make a change because that's what the rules state," Feehery said. "Any time you're (taken) off the Ethics Committee, it's not a punishment. It's not a joyful type of assignment."

And this about Hulshof from the Post-Dispatch ...

As for Hulshof, John Feehery, a spokesman for Hastert, said there was no connection to the DeLay matter and that the speaker simply wanted fresh faces on the panel.

“It wasn’t really removing him,” said Feehery. “It was more like relieving him of his duty. The Speaker doesn’t like to have people who are such talented legislators like him have to spend so much time on ethics.”

Feehery noted that Hulshof sits on the Ways and Means Committee and “is likely to play a critical role on Social Security and tax reform.

“... Ethics is more of a burden than a privilege,” Feehery added. “And the speaker likes to mix it up,” referring to Hastert’s desire to put new members on the panel.

But Hulshof said he had specifically asked Hastert to reappoint him to the panel and noted that two other GOP members who were allowed to stay—Reps. Doc Hastings, R-Wash., and Judy Biggert, R-Ill.—have served on the committee longer than he has.

When corruption is really entrenched, there's no attempt to hide it.