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Emerging right-wing talking points from TPM Reader MK ...


Has dumping on Chuck Colson become one of the many Liberal pastimes? I am guessing that no one on the left has ever read "Born Again." If they did they would realize that Chuck Colson waived his 5th Amendment rights after his conversion and went to prison for his principles.

And what was his crime? Admitting that he viewed a FBI report on a Nixon emeny.

If Colson was the pathological liar you and your ilk make him out to be he would never even seen one day of prison time.

Sincerely, MK

I sent MK a note asking just what <$NoAd$> 'principles' Colson was going to prison for exactly.

As for dumping on Watergate crooks being a liberal pastime, I think the cat is pretty much out of the bag on that one, right?

Oh the liberal bias of it all ...

In the Chicago Tribune, John Kass laments that Mark Felt is honored as a hero while Linda Tripp is still ridiculed.

Maybe the Count isn't a real congressman after all?

Indiana United to Protect Social Security is sponsoring a Social Security townhall meeting downstairs at the St. Joseph County Public Library in South Bend at 6:30 PM next Tuesday, June 7th.

That's in phase-out man and notorious privatization flip-flopper Rep. Chris Chocola's (R) district. And, I guess not <$Ad$>surprisingly, he's refusing to show up.

A TPM Reader from the district tells me that the Count's excuse is that the sponsors of the event don't 'have a plan'. So there's nothing to talk about.

In any case, they're apparently going to have an empty chair on the stage for the absent congressman. So if you're from Indiana's 2nd district try to stop by.

And if you attend, and you take some pictures, let us know. We'd like to share them with the rest of our readers, especially Chocola's empty seat.

I'm very pleased to let you know that guest-blogging at TPMCafe's Table For One the week after next (June 13th-17th) will be Anthony Romero, Executive Director of the ACLU.

He'll be discussing the renewal of the Patriot Act and other issues.

I'm really looking forward to it. I hope you can stop by and join us.

Following up on the earlier post, can anyone send me some particularly rich and egregious examples of chat-meisters on the various shows getting crooks and felons like Colson, Liddy et al. to dump on Mark Felt without pressing them on their own crimes?

Now TPM Reader RW gets into the act about Chuck Colson ...


Colson had the ^#$%* to say this in the Post’s article this morning:

"There were times when I should have blown the whistle, so I understand his feelings. But I cannot approve of his methods."

Blow the whistle on what? Himself? Colson tries to make it seem like he was tortured about blowing the whistle on others, while engaging in no real wrongdoing himself. What a liar. He’s never really lived up to his crimes, other than saying he “was involved in Watergate.” Time for us to press this fool to come clean.


Makes me think of when the lion shall lie down with the <$NoAd$> lamb. Only in the DC version of the end time, which I guess we're now in, the whistle-blowers and truth-tellers will be forced to lay down with the crooks they turned in. And judged as equally worthy.

TPM Reader LG chimes in on Mark Felt, et al.

Josh: Is there anything more despicable than allowing the likes of Chuck Colson and G. Gordon Liddy, and even Pat Buchanan (although he was never implicated in Watergate) to go on TV and call Mark Felt a bum and a disgrace. That Matthews and others have, with either little or no objection to Colson and Liddy’s slander, is outrageous. Mark Felt may or may not be a genuine hero, but what he did was honorable and took courage – and he is certainly not a bum like his accusers.

This hadn't occured to me. Or rather I hadn't realized it because I barely watch any political TV anymore. But if <$Ad$> this is the case, it really is outrageous.

Nixon was a crook, as were most of his cronies. And Felt was a law man who ended up getting that all busted. As I note below, Felt's motives may not be black and white. But it's hard for me to see where any of these jokers gets off passing judgment on him.

I thought Chuck Colson's whole redemption shtick made at least some pro forma nod toward conceding that his Watergate era criminality maybe wasn't such a great thing after all. I guess not.

As for Gordon Liddy, he has, I guess, been accepted back into polite society, of a sort, for a mix of his character (and I'd say I mean that in the descriptive rather than than evaluative sense), his sense of humor and the undeniable fact that he never tried to make excuses for what he did. Took his lumps, etc.

Having said that, he's a crook, a bit nutty, and rightly did time for his crimes not only of the ordinary sort but actually against the constitution itself.

I guess these points don't cut much with DC's chatterati.

I'm not quite sure what to think <$NoAd$>of the fact that in its nostalgic flood-the-zone coverage the Deep Throat-Mark Felt story, the Washington Post has set up a special Deep Throat Revealed blog.

That said, I was fascinated to be reminded, in this post from last night, that even though Felt's identity remained secret for some three decades, H.R. Haldeman had Felt pegged from the start.

They republish this excerpt from one of the Nixon tapes ...

Haldeman: We know what's left, and we know who leaked it.

Nixon: Somebody in the FBI?

Haldeman: Yes, sir. Mark Felt. You can't say anything about this because it will screw up our source and there's a real concern. Mitchell is the only one who knows about this and he feels strongly that we better not do anything...

As Tim Noah points out in Slate, Felt has long been the pick of choice for what Tim calls "the better class of Deep Throat sleuth—[the] discriminating, Campari-sipping sophisticates."

Words of wisdom from TPM Reader RC ...

When pegging our Republican reps on their SS stances, perhaps insisting they give us their "Up or Down Vote" might be blissfully ironic?

I say, run with it.