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Here's a well-thought-out contrary opinion on the Plame matter on a blog called Complex Now. The author says he doesn't think the Plame perps knew she was covert and provides the best argument supporting that conclusion.

I actually agree with some of what he says, but not all. And I'll try to explain where I agree and disagree in a subsequent post. My own sense of how this happened is that it was done quickly and without thinking through the consequences, either the political ones or those for the country.

Also on the Plame matter, here's my latest column in the Hill which explains why I think they did know and why it would almost be worse if they didn't.

More on this soon.

There's been buzz for the last day or so that one of the candidate's internal tracking polls (not Clark's) has Clark pulling ahead of Kerry in New Hampshire. Today's ARG daily New Hampshire tracking poll has him drawing even with Kerry (Dean 37%, Kerry 14%, Clark 14%.)

Are we at the tipping point?

In today's "Off to the Races" column, Charlie Cook says: "As the Iowa caucuses get closer, the outlook for the Democratic nomination gets murkier and murkier."

In New Hampshire, one thing the ARG poll seems to show clearly is that Dean is rock solid at about 37% or 38%, moving neither up nor down. That's a commanding lead. But it leaves lots of non-Dean voters out there.

One of the greatest rhetorical and moral challenges of opinion writing is how to respond to or critique aggressively dishonest or tendentious arguments. One part of you wants to discuss the underlying issue with its complexities and ambiguities intact --- and every issue has complexities and ambiguities. But, in battles of ideas, decibels and clarity matter. And, to take up a different sort of metaphor, the niceties of conflict resolution are hardly appropriate or sensible if you’re trapped in a dark alley with a couple mafia goons.

A case in point is the increasingly brazen tendency for conservative columnists to label any critical discussion of neoconservatism as a form of anti-Semitic diatribe.

Let me point you toward one recent example from a December 31st column by Joel Mowbray. Here are the first three grafs …

Discussing the Iraq war with the Washington Post last week, former General Anthony Zinni took the path chosen by so many anti-Semites: he blamed it on the Jews.

Neither President Bush nor Vice-President Cheney—nor for that matter Zinni’s old friend, Secretary of State Colin Powell—was to blame. It was the Jews. They “captured” both Bush and Cheney, and Powell was merely being a “good soldier.”

Technically, the former head of the Central Command in the Middle East didn’t say “Jews.” He instead used a term that has become a new favorite for anti-Semites: “neoconservatives.” As the name implies, “neoconservative” was originally meant to denote someone who is a newcomer to the right. In the 90’s, many people self-identified themselves as “neocons,” but today that term has become synonymous with “Jews.”


So Tony Zinni, retired four-star general, former head of Centcom, a tough critic of the Iraq war and its architects, is an anti-Semite. And the basis for this is his criticism of neoconservatives.

Here’s another example, from Tuesday’s column by David Brooks in the Times …

In truth, the people labeled neocons (con is short for "conservative" and neo is short for "Jewish") travel in widely different circles and don't actually have much contact with one another. The ones outside government have almost no contact with President Bush. There have been hundreds of references, for example, to Richard Perle's insidious power over administration policy, but I've been told by senior administration officials that he has had no significant meetings with Bush or Cheney since they assumed office. If he's shaping their decisions, he must be microwaving his ideas into their fillings.

It's true that both Bush and the people labeled neocons agree that Saddam Hussein represented a unique threat to world peace. But correlation does not mean causation. All evidence suggests that Bush formed his conclusions independently. Besides, if he wanted to follow the neocon line, Bush wouldn't know where to turn because while the neocons agree on Saddam, they disagree vituperatively on just about everything else. (If you ever read a sentence that starts with "Neocons believe," there is a 99.44 percent chance everything else in that sentence will be untrue.)

Still, there are apparently millions of people who cling to the notion that the world is controlled by well-organized and malevolent forces. And for a subset of these people, Jews are a handy explanation for everything.


The Brooks’ example is a bit more gussied up. But the essential point is the same.

First, on the accusations --- subtle or crass --- of anti-Semitism.

We’ve now gone from arguments where anti-Semitism is perceived at the margins of critiques of neoconservative intellectuals to the current practice in which it is treated as a given that 'neoconservative' is simply a code word for Jew and criticisms of the same are one shade or another of anti-Semitism.

Let’s be clear on what’s going on here.

Pressure groups exist in politics. The loose association of people generally termed 'neoconservative' use the term to describe themselves. And while no group is monolithic in its thinking, they generally think of themselves as a group and act in that fashion. We can get into a discussion at some other point about the fine points of intellectual history and note that intellectual or ideological movements are as much social constructs tethered to specific institutions as they are coherent and consistent textbook philosophies which remain the same over time. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

The point is that this is an ideological group in American politics. The people who are a part of it see it as such, as do its critics and opponents. And yet many now want to use blanket criticisms of anti-Semitism to stigmatize and ward off any and all criticism.

It’s almost like a thuggishly rhetorical assertion of intellectual property rights. Neoconservatives can use the term and talk about their movement as a movement. But it’s off-limits for opponents --- sort of like how trademark holder Nike can use the phrase “Just Do It” but if Reebok tried, Nike would sue.

Not only is this dishonest. It's a conscious cheapening of the charge of anti-Semitism that should be roundly and vociferously criticized.

Another point.

In Brooks’ column, aside from the anti-Semitism stuff I’ve noted, we can see another common ploy. In fact, it makes up almost the entirety of Brooks’ column.

The aim is to discredit any notion that neoconservatism plays any significant role in Bush administration foreign policy --- a demonstrably ridiculous point. Brooks does this by mixing in all sorts of code words about ‘conspiracies’, ‘jews’, radio communications through dental filings and the like to stigmatize as ridiculous what is actually a serious issue and ripe field for serious debate.

It’s almost the definition of anti-intellectualism.

Here’s a particular example from the second graf of Brooks’ column …



Theories about the tightly knit neocon cabal came in waves. One day you read that neocons were pushing plans to finish off Iraq and move into Syria. Web sites appeared detailing neocon conspiracies; my favorite described a neocon outing organized by Dick Cheney to hunt for humans.



This is really classic. First, a demonstrably accurate point, neocons pushing for forcible regime change in Syria followed by some story about Dick Cheney’s hunting trip to hunt humans.

How do you respond to something like this?

Sort of like …



So many crazy stories out there. One minute people are claiming that jumbo-jets are flying from New York to Paris. The next day we hear that flying saucers are beaming people up to space and spiriting them away to Mars …



Finally, a small confession. Both of the writers I've discussed above are what I guess you'd call casual acquaintances -- at least people I've met on several occasions in the past and almost certainly will again. So there's a natural or I guess unavoidable tendency to resist calling their arguments dishonest or tendentious -- and referring to them by name. But what else is possible or appropriate when they're slandering and maligning whole categories of people?

What's being practiced here isn't argument. These are rhetorical brickbats meant to squelch argument. The whole thing is disinformation from start to finish.

"White House press secretary Scott McClellan declined to say Monday whether President Bush thinks his aides should sign forms that would release reporters from any pledges of confidentiality regarding the leak of the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame."

That's the lede from Mike Allen's piece in tomorrow's Post.

The invaluable Chris Nelson, on the latest on the North Korea front, in this evening's Nelson Report ...

1. The current "news" is that, first, N. Korea says it won't come back to the 6-party talks until it gets financial inducements which the U.S. continues to say it won't approve; and, second, two private U.S. delegations are in and/or enroute to North Korea, and that the White House did not stop them, as it did policy critic and Congressman Kurt Weldon (R-Pa.) last year.

-- more on the 6 party talks later. Apparently in N. Korea is a group including former State Dept. negotiator Amb. Chuck Pritchard, now of Brookings, who was basically pushed out of the DPRK liaison slot by Vice President Cheney's office, with help from Undersecretary of State John Bolton.

2. Expected to arrive soon is a Congressional "staff del" on behalf of Senate Foreign Relations Committee chair Richard Lugar (Keith Luse) and Ranking Dem Joe Biden (Frank Jannuzi), on a reprise of their private mission of last summer.

-- critics point out that what Luse, Jannuzi and Pritchard have in common, and what puts them in the "untrustworthy" category for Administration hard liners, is that all three have extensive, face-to-face experience talking with senior N. Korean officials about the issues which the hardliners claim are so mysterious.

3. Initial press accounts tried to reflect ROK Government optimism that by allowing the two missions, the White House was sending a covert "signal" of a more open attitude toward dealing with the DPRK…but any such spin was firmly shot down over the weekend.

-- it's significant that "pro-engagement" sources reinforce the initial statement by State's Adam Ereli that while State holds the Congressional staff delegation in the highest personal and professional regard, they frankly see more risk than opportunity from the visit: "Certainly any efforts that complicate prospects or undertakings to reconvene the six-party talks and to achieve forward movement in dismantling North Korea's nuclear program aren't helpful".

4. Today, a highly placed source explains, "The Administration is always concerned when the DPRK seems to want to negate the 6-party talks mechanism and pursue separate channels, particularly with American groups. We think the opportunities for mischief in this are neither remote nor small, and I say that with full respect for Messrs Luse and Jannuzi…".

-- following up on Ereli's official remarks last Friday, this source elaborates: "Contrary to the [initial press coverage of the two delegations] neither…goes with any approval, mandate, briefings or message from the Administration."

5. On the 6 Party talks, Russia and China today apparently failed to come up with compromise language which would allow a resumption, which they now concede would not be until February, at the earliest.

-- Russia/China tried to take up the long-standing DPRK offer of a "freeze" on its nuclear activities, but seem to have run headlong into today's reiteration by Pyongyang that it wants to be paid…this, despite President Bush's prompt rejection of a freeze during the U.S./China summit, followed by a the mid-December reiteration of the hardliner position that Pyongyang must agree to "irreversible" dismantling of its nuclear programs.

6. Sources confirm press stories from Dec. 19 that Vice President Cheney continues to play a critical role in enforcing a hard line, something that Amb. Pritchard has charged repeatedly, since retiring from the State Department.

-- according to involved players, Cheney led the way in rejecting an earlier Chinese compromise effort, although his concern was portrayed as more tactical than strategic. Cheney insisted that a press statement prior to any 6-party resumption would have to contain the "mantra" about "irreversible" etc.

7. Informed engager sources concede that while no one can object to the goal, Cheney's requirement that China and the other participants agree in advance in a pre-negotiation press statement "was enough to block any chance of coming to the table at this point."


With these late details in mind, see this piece by Fred <$Ad$>Kaplan in today's Slate.

Last week, administration boosters (either misunderstanding or intentionally distorting)made out as though the departure of this delegation was a sign that the NKs were folding in the face of Saddam's capture and the general success of regime change in Iraq.

The truth is rather different. As we've noted in these pages before, for roughly a year now, the administration has been walking back from its own policy toward North Korea -- first holding negotiations it said it would never hold, then broaching security assurances it said it would never guarantee, and then -- contrary to previous statements -- offering the prospect of new aid even before comprehensive disarmament.

The movement hasn't been linear or clean -- more like a series of wiggly gyres. But the overall direction has been fairly clear. The question now is whether the White House can ditch its failed policy once and for all and begin to move forward.

Oh what a difference having a dog in the fight makes ...

A few days ago the Post's Mike Allen got Victoria "typical Washington talk" Toensing to let us in on the Plame perps' 'we didn't know she was covert' legal strategy. Well, it seems Victoria was a little more hard core on the leak front before her friends (or clients?) got their hands caught in the cookie jar.

Back on September 9th 2001 she penned a piece in Post called "They Call It a Leak. I Call It a Crime."

"The leak must be investigated fully," Toensing bellowed, "if the law has any meaning. If that requires subpoenaing a reporter's phone records, so be it."

Phew! I'm pretty leery of busting up or subpoenaing the reporters in this case (an issue we'll go into further in a later post). But daaayyyuumm! That Victoria, I mean, you go girl!

In truth, of course, calling this a 'leak' is simply the way that those who want to hide or ignore this incident use to diminish its significance. The leak was only the mechanism by which the crime took place. Sort of like the Rosenberg leak or Rick Ames' leaks ...

As consequential? No. With the same treasonous intent? Of course not. But reckless indifference to national security isn't a defense, just another explanation for the crime. And as the Republicans got so fond of saying back in the 1990s: the law is the law.

The Iowa primary debate seemed a generally tepid affair -- it's finishing up right now. But Howard Dean signed on the dotted line of party loyalty and got the rest of the candidates on the stage to do the same. Good for all of them. Let's watch see that each sticks to it.

Fortune magazine has just published an interview with famed management guru Peter Drucker, whose expertise, of course, stretches into law, finance, international economics and foreign affairs. (Unfortunately, it's subscription only.) Here's one passage worth noting.

Look particularly at Drucker's comments on India and China.

FORTUNE: You sound fairly sanguine about the state of the U.S. economy. Do you see any danger signs?

DRUCKER: Oh, yes. The biggest problem I see is our total dependence on foreign money to cover our government debt. Never before has a major debtor country owed its debt in its own currency. It is unprecedented in economic history. Japan, by contrast, owes all its foreign debt in dollars. Now if you devalue the dollar, the Japanese economy benefits, because their imports become much cheaper. And the value of their debt goes down also. The individual Japanese companies that invest in dollars would lose, but the overall Japanese economy gains. But we have no experience about what will happen here when we owe so much debt in our own currency and we're forced to devalue the dollar. Sooner or later, we're going to find out.

What's more, there is an enormous amount of surplus capital in the world for which there is no productive investment. The supply greatly exceeds the demand. So there is a very jittery body of excess money that is desperately in need of returns, and it could become panic-prone. We have no economic theory or model for this.

FORTUNE: Does the U.S. still set the tone for the world economy?

DRUCKER: The dominance of the U.S. is already over. What is emerging is a world economy of blocs represented by NAFTA, the European Union, ASEAN. There's no one center in this world economy. India is becoming a powerhouse very fast. The medical school in New Delhi is now perhaps the best in the world. And the technical graduates of the Institute of Technology in Bangalore are as good as any in the world. Also, India has 150 million people for whom English is their main language. So India is indeed becoming a knowledge center.

In contrast, the greatest weakness of China is its incredibly small proportion of educated people. China has only 1.5 million college students, out of a total population of over 1.3 billion. If they had the American proportion, they'd have 12 million or more in college. Those who are educated are well trained, but there are so few of them. And then there is the enormous undeveloped hinterland with excess rural population. Yes, that means there is enormous manufacturing potential. In China, however, the likelihood of the absorption of rural workers into the cities without upheaval seems very dubious. You don't have that problem in India because they have already done an amazing job of absorbing excess rural population into the cities--its rural population has gone from 90% to 54% without any upheaval.

Everybody says China has 8% growth and India only 3%, but that is a total misconception. We don't really know. I think India's progress is far more impressive than China's.


If Drucker is right (and<$Ad$> I've always been in the camp that agrees with his general point with regards to India and China), that has vast and in most cases positive implications for America's posture across the globe. With respect to China. With respect to Pakistan. And in many other places as well.

Think how much of our broad, long-range foreign policy thinking rests on the premise that China is the rising economic and military power? What if the premise is wrong? Or what if India, nearly as large a country in population terms, is another rising behemoth? Then consider too that India is a democracy, albeit an imperfect one. It's also a rule of law based society -- again, if an imperfect one. And it's a country with hundreds of millions of English speakers and, according to Drucker, 150 million speak it as their primary language. (Update: As this page shows, Drucker's statement in this case is certainly incorrect. Only about 20 million Indians speak English as their native language. A number between 150 and 200 million properly refers to fluent English speakers.)

This is not a partisan issue in American politics, or needn't be. President Clinton began an opening to India in the 1990s and it's been continued under President Bush.

We'll return to this issue.

I'm gearing up to go to New Hampshire later this month (ten days of on-the-ground blog reporting up until primary day), lining up interviews and meetings and so forth. So I wanted to share some sense of what the campaign looks like to me right now.

As nearly as I can tell, the race has four moving parts right now: Clark, Dean, Gephardt and Kerry. And the four candidates are in motion like the interlocking pieces of a clock, each affecting the other in multidimensional ways.

Look for instance, at the American Research Group New Hampshire tracking poll. To the best of my knowledge, ARG is the only outfit currently running a public daily tracking poll.

Going back to the day after Christmas, there are three candidates consistently over 5%: Clark, Dean and Kerry. Clark and Dean have been strikingly consistent over the ten day period, with Clark at 12/13% and Dean at 37%.

(In the last two days, Dean has hit 38% and then 39%. But it's too early to see if that's a trend.)

The one clear trend line is a slow deterioration for Kerry. He started at 19% percent and went down a point each day until he settled at 14%.

Tracking polls are notoriously volatile. And the sample sizes are small. But I think there's consistent enough downward movement there to say something is happening.

Yet, this downdraft is not inconsistent with Kerry's strategy, as I understand it. Or, more accurately, not something they haven't accounted for.

Kerry is making a renewed and intense push in Iowa, figuring that he can't restart his campaign in New Hampshire and has to look for a springboard elsewhere.

I haven't seen any recent polls out of Iowa. But anecdotal reports say he's making some progress and gathering some steam there. The press will need some unexpected story out of Iowa in a couple weeks. And if Kerry surpasses whatever his expectations threshold is there, then he could be the story of the week going into New Hampshire, quite possibly reversing the deterioration which is now so evident there. It's the electoral equivalent of a very long hail mary pass.

But where is that threshold? It's hard to see how a Kerry surge in Iowa could be anything but a footnote unless he actually comes in second. And that seems hard to figure.

But where is that threshold? That's a key question.

Another data point that stands out in the ARG numbers is Clark. Though Kerry is falling, Clark seems to be locked in at 12% or 13%. If Kerry falls far enough in New Hampshire, then it really will be a Dean/Clark race.

But that will be by default. With all the other candidates save these three polling so poorly in New Hampshire, and with Kerry slipping, you'd really expect Clark to be gaining at least some ground. But at least by the evidence of the ARG poll, he's not.

Again, we're dealing with limited data here: one tracking poll. But Clark's putting lots of resources into the state now. If Kerry's decline doesn't reverse, when does he start to move? And if not, why not?

Then we have Dick Gephardt, for whom everything is Iowa. Like Kerry, he's looking for that Iowa leverage to propel him into a two-man race with Howard Dean. On TV this morning The Des Moines Register's David Yepsen (the 'wise man' of the Iowa caucuses) gave the impression that there is still a very real race in Iowa.

He also seemed to say that the mix of attacks and stumbles over the last month hasn't hurt Dean, in the sense of eroding his support, but has for the moment at least arrested any further gains. With a large pool of undecideds, that's important.

Dean's strategy here is the most straightforward: run down the clock. Get through both of these primaries with solid wins, prevent any of the other three candidates from significantly exceeding expectations, and end January with so much momentum than even the opposing candidate in the inevitable two-man race simply can't catch up.

One final thought: an interesting strategic question.

Would Clark gain more from a solid Iowa victory for Dean which effectively ended Gephardt's and Kerry's candidacies (thus forcing a two-man race by default) or by one of the other candidates breaking out, thus knocking Dean significantly off his stride?

With no little interest this morning I tuned in Fox News Sunday, which is now hosted by Chris Wallace. What will it be like, I wondered, to have the Fox Show hosted by a straight-up journalist, rather than a Movement Conservative who takes to Fox's silly conservative slant and Democratic-bashing like mother's milk?

Alas ... They didn't leave me wondering for long. It turns out it doesn't make any difference. His interview with (aka ambush of) Steve Grossman (who's now Dean's national campaign co-chair) was truly shameless, all but a caricature of the Fox MO.

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