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Josh Marshall

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Perhaps someone can help me with this.

When was the last time Karl Rove appeared at a public event and when was the last time he spoke to a reporter? (And I don't mean the calls he's making to them now in the spin war. I mean, on the record public questions.)

I don't mean questions about the Fitzgerald investigation. Questions about anything. Any public event.

Late Update: Okay, TPM Reader JG has just sent us this link to an article about a July 8th Rove appearance at the Ameritrade Holding Corp. facility in Bellevue, Nebraska. Fittingly, he was flacking phase-out. He spoke before an assembly of 500 employees.

Duke won't cede ground to Rove in Capital corruption smackdown!

Dockmaster Kelvin Lee among four staffers from the yacht club subpoenaed to testify before the Duke grand jury.

In other news, the Duke Stir left its moorings at the Capital Yacht Club today, departing for parts unknown.

"Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, terrorism, narco-trafficking, people killing each other, fundamentalists killing each other in the name of God. These and more. Many more. As our analysts know, as our collectors of intelligence know - these are our enemies. To combat them we need more intelligence, not less. We need more human intelligence. That means we need more protection for the methods we use to gather intelligence and more protection for our sources, particularly our human sources, people that are risking their lives for their country. Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious, of traitors."

George H. W. Bush
Dedication Ceremony for the George Bush Center for Intelligence
April 26th, 1999

Emerging bamboozlement meme? A TPM Reader tells me that on the Hannity show the new line is that Cooper set Rove up, lulling him with talk about welfare reform, before slipping in the last minute question about Joe Wilson.

You really have to wonder how these robots process this stuff in their own heads.

Okay, we're getting pretty amazing reports about veritable bamboozlement typhoons sweeping across several of the evening chat shows. We hear that Hardball was probably the worst, with a series of ridiculous claims by Ken Mehlman and later Ed Rogers. If you watched, please let us know what you saw and heard. We've set up this special discussion thread to chronicle the bamboozlement on this evening's show.

We also hear Rogers made a bamboozlement pit stop at the Newshour. Share what you saw there on this thread.

Ouch! The AP gets reeled in after chomping down hard on the GOP bamboozle bait. We join the unfortunate moment in <$NoAd$> progress (emphasis added) ...

Still, Charles Black, a longtime GOP strategist, predicts Rove will survive.

"It's good fodder for a feeding frenzy. And Democrats are pouncing on Karl because they fear and hate him. But, based on what we know that Karl did, there's nothing wrong with that," Black said.

"The question at the time that was put to McClellan in 2003 was did Karl or these other guys intentionally leak the woman's name, which is a criminal offense. He didn't do that," said Black.

A 1982 law prohibits the deliberate leaking of CIA agents' names. Plame is the wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson, who accused the administration of manipulating intelligence on weapons of mass destruction to justify the invasion of Iraq. Wilson suggests his wife's name was leaked as retaliation.


Black has apparently found black letter law showing that Rove had to use Plame's actual name, which Cooper's email suggests he didn't do. And the AP buys it.

Only the law doesn't say anything remotely like that.

You can read the whole thing here. But here are some examples of the language the law uses ...

identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent ... intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent


Intent is a very important component of the law, as is how the person in question learned the information. And either could be enough to get Rove off the hook. But the idea that the individuals name has to be used is completely ridiculous. But that didn't stop Charlie Black from bagging the AP pretty nicely on this one.

Fox News runs with new bamboozlement line ...

Cooper's e-mail said Rove warned him away from the idea that Wilson's trip had been authorized by CIA Director George Tenet or Vice President Dick Cheney.

"He gave proper guidance to a reporter who got disinformation in a leak" meant to assign responsibility to Cheney, former Bush aide Ed Rogers told FOX News.


Karl Rove, anti-leak warrior.

A TPM Reader frames it very nicely: Is the president going to stand by his word or stand by his man?

Emerging Bamboozlement Alert!

Newt throws lifeline to Rove and W.! Katie Couric mans the deck!

In his appearance this morning on the Today Show Newt Gingrich said: "The president's been pretty clear: if somebody's broken the law they will be fired. The question is whether or not, uh, what karl did was in any way breaking the law."

When did the president say anything about breaking the law? Didn't he just say that he'd fire whoever was involved in the leak?

Have you seen other examples of emerging bamboozlement strategies? Let us know in this discussion thread.

John Kerry responds to Rick Santorum's claim that Massachusetts liberalism is the cause of pedophilia and priest abuse of minors ...

"The families of Massachusetts soldiers who have given their lives for their country in Iraq know more about the mainstream American values of Massachusetts than Rick Santorum ever will.

As a prosecutor in Massachusetts putting criminals behind bars, I saw some of the worst criminals who had abused children and not once did I hear them hide behind Sen. Santorum's bizarre claim that the state was responsible for their acts.

Rick Santorum owes an apology to the families of abuse victims and an apology to the faithful who fill the pews of Massachusetts churches every Sunday."


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Late Update: Okay, I have nothing to add. But Sen. Kennedy does.

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